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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:
What doofus decided Gojo would be Low 7-B in domain but not Sukuna but say Gojo's reasoning for Low 7-B is scaling to Sukuna? lmao
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What I should've done is post a CRT for Sukuna before applying that
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Speaking of which
vsbattles.fandom.com

Ryomen Sukuna

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Ya JJK supporters can't stop with updating these two pages specifically lmao. There's a lot unneeded with how you set it, but Maho doesn't need a whole section, he's got a page already. Should look at the Sukuna page to see what you gotta remove from your sandbox since the page already has a ton of what you got.
I say just put what he doesn't have in a crt itself instead of the whole sandbox but its wtv
 
Arkenis said:
Ya JJK supporters can't stop with updating these two pages specifically lmao. There's a lot unneeded with how you set it, but Maho doesn't need a whole section, he's got a page already. Should look at the Sukuna page to see what you gotta remove from your sandbox since the page already has a ton of what you got.
I say just put what he doesn't have in a crt itself instead of the whole sandbox but its wtv
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My blog is organized by powers that apply to him and powers he gets as a benefit of being a Cursed Object with vessels

Though I suppose I'll link Maho's page instead of giving him a P&A on Sukuna's
 
Arkenis said:
We don't scale the domain to low 7-B? Cleave is and that's because of how it works but not the domain itself, look at the page.
so that doesn't work.
Also look at what the domain did to Gojo... we see large amounts of blood, almost looks like his intestines are coming out, it didn't just do scratches lmao.
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why does yall not doing that for the gojo profile matter here. im just straight up telling you how jujutsu ranking works. fire arrow having high destruction capability doesn't discredit domain scaling higher in potency either.

ye i looked at it, and the damage is so ass. couldn't even tear off, cut off, or slash off any pieces of flesh at all, let alone his earlobe that it slashed at, especially when he temporarily didn't use rct to heal his injuries 😂. his intestines aren't coming out either, it's just from how many slashes is occurring, which causes lots of blood to spill and slash around, which might fool u into thinking intestines are about to come out.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
That's because it has no bearing on this

Why would there need to be? The way the statement is made during Sukuna's fight against Megumi asserts that the physical strength he displays while in a vessel is his own
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No scans = Headcanons. You can stop replying if you got no scans for Megumi body getting rewritten before Kashimo fight. I will take it as headcanon and burden of proof.
 
Arkenis said:
Ya JJK supporters can't stop with updating these two pages specifically lmao. There's a lot unneeded with how you set it, but Maho doesn't need a whole section, he's got a page already. Should look at the Sukuna page to see what you gotta remove from your sandbox since the page already has a ton of what you got.
I say just put what he doesn't have in a crt itself instead of the whole sandbox but its wtv
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Gojo and Sukuna stocks go crazy
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
My blog is organized by powers that apply to him and powers he gets as a benefit of being a Cursed Object with vessels
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I don't get it, the page already set up his different vessels pna. I'm saying what you think is missing just put it in a crt itself instead of the whole blog so its easier to look through you know?

Like this in the crt

"Cursed Object Abilities"
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Arkenis said:
I don't get it, the page already set up his different vessels pna. I'm saying what you think is missing just put it in a crt itself instead of the whole blog so its easier to look through you know?

Like this in the crt

"Cursed Object Abilities"
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Most powers are already on the current page. I just reorganized them
 
Arkenis said:
Ya JJK supporters can't stop with updating these two pages specifically lmao. There's a lot unneeded with how you set it, but Maho doesn't need a whole section, he's got a page already. Should look at the Sukuna page to see what you gotta remove from your sandbox since the page already has a ton of what you got.
I say just put what he doesn't have in a crt itself instead of the whole sandbox but its wtv
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Honestly I wish we could make a discussion rule to stop updating only Sukuna and Gojo's profile. I know we can't just saying
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I agree with other things you re organising but Current profile AP Justification is better than what you written and you added few things and removed things without proper justification and we don't scale domain to AP even if it gives amps. It doens't stated it gives physical amps for every domain.
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If you're seriously going to argue against an in-universe statement and a WoG statement, then I refuse to entertain this


I am not having a long-winded debate about DE stat amp
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
If you're seriously going to argue against an in-universe statement and WoG statement, then I refuse to entertain this

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Scans never states physical boost either way. It states users attributes which is also has meaning of features/ abilities
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attribute

1. a quality or characteristic that someone or something has: 2. a quality or…
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Also Gojo mentioned Status upgrade which doens't have to be physically stronger it can also mean abilities status getting upgraded if go by Fanbook statements you sent.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
You chasing profile upgrades.
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You still need to complete the calculations bruh you got a long way to go. I guess we won't be seeing any updates until like 2 more months?
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Calculations are taking time because @SunDaGamer is busy with his abilities threads, and I’m too lazy to do all by myself. @Dalesean027 is also helping, although with only evaluations (his PC broke and he can only calc if you give him the pixelscaling).

Our priority order:

1. Calcs that are currently used (I think we recalced everything, except the fire arrow which will soon be redone)

2. New calculations made by us that we want to use. For example, calcs that were labeled as “supporting” will now be used as main calcs, because not everyone is scaling to 8-A anymore (8-B)

3. Supporting calcs that will be used as support evidence as to why a character belongs to that Tier.

I won’t be redoing all the profiles. I’ll be redoing Itadori’s profile because he’s the main character and deserves some quality profile, Gojo, Sukuna, Megumi, Nobara, Todo, Choso, Yuta, Kenjaku and some more important characters and characters that I like the most. The rest will have their stats massively improved with scans and references, and instead of “Scales to X”, I’ll do exactly what I did to Todo, explaining how strong he is while also showing a certain limitation.

The one I’m most excited about is Gojo, given how much he’s hyped in the series and how all his statements of being the strongest will be used on a huge AP section I’m planning.

I’m also experimenting with a lot of different formats for statistics, powers and abilities and notable techniques.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I’m also experimenting with a lot of different formats for statistics, powers and abilities and notable techniques.
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For Itadori I have a format that fuse his abilities with stats from the same key.

It’s a tabber that has all his keys, and whenever you change the tabber to the key you want, it changes both abilities and stats.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Calculations are taking time because @SunDaGamer is busy with his abilities threads, and I’m too lazy to do all by myself. @Dalesean027 is also helping, although with only evaluations (his PC broke and he can only calc if you give him the pixelscaling).
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No problem bro take your time. It's not like we are in any rush.
M3X_2.0 said:
Our priority order:

1. Calcs that are currently used (I think we recalced everything, except the fire arrow which will soon be redone)

2. New calculations made by us that we want to use. For example, calcs that were labeled as “supporting” will now be used as main calcs, because not everyone is scaling to 8-A anymore (8-B)
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Yeah I hope we reach a solid ground this time instead of going back and forth with ratings. Take your time and work on calculations so that we don't need to go back and forth again & again
M3X_2.0 said:
’ll be redoing Itadori’s profile because he’s the main character and deserves some quality profile,
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M3X_2.0 said:
For Itadori I have a format that fuse his abilities with stats from the same key.

It’s a tabber that has all his keys, and whenever you change the tabber to the key you want, it changes both abilities and stats.
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Goat🐐 profile needs to be cooked perfectly
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Arkenis said:
Can I use this for a crt to upgrade some speeds like Ryu?
vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X_2.0/JJK_Project_Chapter_176_Feats
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I guess you can upgrade Ryu's attack speed for GB to supersonic just like Choso's PB, but i don't think you can upgrade this to his combat speed.
 
Arkenis said:
Why would the domain scale higher?
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? why would a non maximum ct technique scale above apex jujutsu. both attacks are straight forward in that their main offense is damage. (Fire arrow and Cleave and dismantle) and domain expansion puts these latter two at the peak. that's how the increase gets.

EXPANSION (展開 - tenkai)

The culmination of a jujutsu battle by expanding a domain.

Domain expansion… an innate domain imbued with a cursed technique, it is the act of embodying with cursed energy. After deployment, the cursed technique will have a sure-hit effect, and the user’s attributes also increase. It is called the “culmination of a jujutsu battle” because it can be said that a domain expansion = the end.

However, it consumes an enormous amount of cursed energy, so there are some disadvantages such as difficulty in using a technique after deployment.
its also why domain expansions easily shatter Simple Domains, with the reasoning being their output being too strong, too high. there's a hierarchy of ranking for these abilities in jujutsu level. it goes
Domain Expansion > Maximum CT > Any other ability in one's arsenal that isn't considered to be at such level of jujutsu.

MAXIMUM (極ノ番 - goku no ban)

Sorcerers fundamentally only have one type of innate technique. However, every technique can be expanded on through creativity, giving sorcerers their own original moves. With inherited techniques, sorcerers of the past pass on the original moves they create. Within all that, barring Domain Expansion, every technique has an ultimate move called the Maximum. Additionally, moves that are not Maximum that use the maximum output of curse energy are called Stack (載 - sai).
then there's this
THE INNATE DOMAIN (生得領域 - shōtoku ryōiki) ESTABLISHES THE FOUNDATION OF A TECHNIQUE — The "innate domain" is the space that we are born with, which can be called a "mental landscape" that embodies our inner heart. This includes not only sorcerers, but also non-sorcerers.
which all in all means your ct is way above any other jujutsu ability in your arsenal including maximum. or maximum output. as long as its in your own "home" (innate domain) which is like the prime environment for your techniques

the reason why i think domain > fire arrow is only in specific related to the damage they cause, not fire or temperature as cleave dismantle don't have these attributes but fire arrow and cleave&dismantle have a common main attribute is that they cause damage through the power they have. the second reasoning is that Gojo's first domain battle where he had his infinity down, or his second domain battle where he also had his infinity down, did not prompt Sukuna to ever pull up the fire arrow on gojo when he could and had the opportunity to do so, more so in the second domain battle where gojo lost. This is the gojo that he's trying to kill and is blatantly trying to do so. And he very well can use it when it is imbued into his domain.

[SUKUNA’S TECHNIQUE
Released by the King of Curses himself, it’s a slashing hellfire of slaughter.

Cursed techniques commonly only have one characteristic, but Sukuna’s technique has been confirmed to have at least two - slashing and flames - which makes it exceptionally powerful. Once it’s activated, it will destroy the enemy in an instant, tearing them apart and burning them down to their bone marrow.
解 - Kai (Dismantle), 捌 - Hachi (Cleave), ■ (?)

Sukuna’s slashing technique is Dismantle, which he uses normally, and the other is Cleave, which is able to be adjusted to the amount of cursed energy and strength of his opponent. When he releases the flames, Sukuna says “Open” (fugue)

Panel caption: It turns out that the three types of attacks have their own uses. Sukuna combines them depending on the situation in order to cleverly beat his opponent.]

Gojo and the gang already knows about the flames too, (Kusakabe has no reason to not tell Gojo or the gang) yet Sukuna never used it, ever and took the riskier approach against Gojo... because he already tried to kill Gojo with his domain and it didn't work, so his only way is to get the adaptation going. If the fire arrow was indeed the one shot move which many think here, then he would have used it with no doubt. literally no reason for him to not do it. especially when it is domain amped now too. and it isn't a separate ct or whatever but part of his ct.





TLDR: if sukuna never used fire arrow despite having the opportunity and ability to do so then it's pretty telling that it ain't gonna kill gojo or be the deciding factor to his win, or be enough to incapacitate gojo for a moment in order to then kill him. which makes it consistent with the fact that fire arrow is below peak jujutsu (DE) as it should be.
 
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