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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Nullflowerblush
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if he can freely change its entire appearance then he clearly has added onto megumi's body
EldemadeDityjon
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Narratively stated he didn't transformed to his True form until Kashimo's fight. What you are saying is baseless assumption.
Nullflowerblush
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"baseless assumption"
Incarnation overwrites the host's vessel with their body and soul information. Megukuna has 15 Fingers Sukuna's physical characteristics but the outwardly appearance of Megumi because that has been and always will be how the process of Incarnation works. If Megumi's body has Sukuna's Cursed Energy, it has his motor skills, too.
EldemadeDityjon
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Didn't say anything about overwriting something
It's regarding common thing for whoever overwrites the information but we literally see Sukuna not overwriting it
Already addressed this Toji information was already overwritten to Ogami Grandson why are you bringing this up? This is bad comparison.
Yeah what you are saying is still Baseless assumption when Manga states otherwise.
EldemadeDityjon
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@SunDaGamer @Arkenis is this feat calculated Naoya was moving at his top speed meaning Supersonic. Maki was looking at opposite direction she turns back and smacks him before he jumps on her. This is another POV of distance and being in opposite direction
Giannysmag
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I did a calc of it while back that got Subsonic, though given my calc trackrecord i wouldn't put much value on it's accuracy
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I also mispelled the title which will haunt me every time i go through my blogs
Maki Punhes Nayoa
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EldemadeDityjon
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Sun already addressed the issue same as me use Supersonic end and recalculate it. We might get something.I did a calc of it while back that got Subsonic, though given my calc trackrecord i wouldn't put much value on it's accuracy
I also mispelled the title which will haunt me every time i go through my blogsMaki Punhes Nayoa
Btw Maki Precognition of reaction speed of Mach 3 Naoya how would it be usable in her normal combat?
Giannysmag
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It's a 1.1x difference it really doesn't change anything
I am i firm believer that Maki got a power up to her physicals against Naoya and there should at least be a calc for her punching him mid air. Also what do you mean how would it be usable? It's precognition it lets her keep up with people faster than her
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Nullflowerblush
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No, that one said merging.
Except, we do because Megumi's body has Sukuna's markings, like Yuji's did when Sukuna took over.
"肉体を仕上げる" ("I need to apply the finishing touches to this body."), as in,
- (1) "伏黒恵の自我......いや魂をより深くへ沈めるために" ("...submerge Megumi Fushiguro's ego... or rather, his soul even deeper.")
- (2) Consume four additional fingers and a mummified head to return to his former strength
As far back as Chapter 9, Megumi remarked that 2-Finger Yujikuna's physical strength/agility and Cursed Energy Manipulation were "immense"—agility later compared to that of Toji's mind you; Megumi is clearly not referring to Yuji's natural strength. Sukuna was strong in Yuji's body because that body inherited his physical abilities.
EldemadeDityjon
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Subsonic+
I mean Sukuna was shown to faster than her we don't see her Precognition helping her to dodge his attacks so I was wondering if 15F Sukuna > Mach 3 Precognition of Maki. Ofcourse I'm talking about combat speed not travel speed. And whoever comparable to Sukuna like Gojo should get mach 3 rating
. (just back up you know MHS getting nuked so I was looking for other speed scaling)
Giannysmag
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103 x 1.1 = 113.3 m/s which is still subsonicSubsonic+
There's no reason to assume she isn't using her precog against 15F Sukuna. The way it's presented it seems to be a permenent change in how she sees the world rather than something she has to activateI mean Sukuna was shown to faster than her we don't see her Precognition helping her to dodge his attacks so I was wondering if 15F Sukuna > Mach 3 Precognition of Maki. Ofcourse I'm talking about combat speed not travel speed. And whoever comparable to Sukuna like Gojo should get mach 3 rating
EldemadeDityjon
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When did marking gave powers to Sukuna? Can you show me the scans
The part which you bolded didn't stated anything in the scan he said he can compensate for the missing finger+ we are talking about physical sts idk why you are bringing irrelevant points here. Also how this is proving Megumi body had full cursed energy Reinforcements?
Cursed energy amps body sts bro how many times I have to say that. Even with Megumi weak body Sukuna can use his immense cursed energy and output to maintain it. We literally see that Against Yorozu fight. We even have Direct statement for him having one heck of an CE output.
Yuji is physically comparable to Maki of course It's notable for Yuji version of Sukuna having physical sts which is noticeably. Also it's not stated as it's because of Sukuna. Also comparing to others is meaningless we are not arguing that. It's about if Sukuna amps his vessel with his CE or not why are you bringing the argument of Sukuna was compared to Toji? This is irrelevant.
EldemadeDityjon
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Sun wrote this in the comments of your blog check it.
So Mach 3 combat speed for Sukuna (wait Null calculation already has Sukuna punching speed as mach 2) Lmao I guess it's just supporting evidence.
Nullflowerblush
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Stop being ******* obtuse.
yadda yadda bip bip bip
You can keep saying it as many times as you want.
Doesn't really change the fact that, naturally, Megukuna > Megumi.
i can't read this.
EldemadeDityjon
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You are stonewalling now who said Megumi ~ Megukuna?
Giannysmag
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I updated the calc
EldemadeDityjon
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Btw Hakari being able to react and shift his CE with binding vow to survive Kashimo's Explosion at last moment. I wanted to know if it's possible to calculate the reaction speed for that. Someone did the same type of thing for Takaba out running the Explosion.
Giannysmag
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It'd probably only apply to Hakari's precreption speed. You'd also need to prove that he performed the binding vow after the explosion had already launched and didn't just sense the massive amount of CE Kashimo was bulding up
Nullflowerblush
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also, the term is strawmanning.
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We use the rating of 0.0291 here.
JJK - Naoya Blitzes Yuji
Common Calc Concern: Reaction Times for Blitzing Feats
This time, the practice I'm trying to demolish is entirely my fault. And I don't think I'll be pulling from any specific examples because it's so absurdly widespread. Still, allow me to clarify my premise. Using the subsonic reaction timeframe for any feat in which characters are "completely...
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We're literally told Sukuna paused the process of incarnation in his vessel's body, if his own info overwrote Megumi's then he'd end up in his 4 arm form which clearly isn't happening when he has Megumi's appearance
EldemadeDityjon
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My bad yeah you are strawmaning thanks
Also what you sent has nothing to do with what I said.
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EldemadeDityjon
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So that Naoya Blizting Yuji and Choso also should be used under 0.08?Common Calc Concern: Reaction Times for Blitzing Feats
This time, the practice I'm trying to demolish is entirely my fault. And I don't think I'll be pulling from any specific examples because it's so absurdly widespread. Still, allow me to clarify my premise. Using the subsonic reaction timeframe for any feat in which characters are "completely...vsbattles.com
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Yeah
I think we gotta use Transonic speed (Mach 1) for Naoya now since KT got a translation saying it was the Cursed Womb version of Naoya that was faster than sound which would make it Mach 1.1 at least. Human Naoya surpassing Subsonic speed is the only statement we have for him specifically so he'd be Transonic just off of that
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Let me see if I got this right. Even though Choso and Yuji have performed and/or scale to feats of subsonic+ and higher, that timeframe can't be used for this calc b/c neither of them have a technically canonical reaction/perception speed of subsonic+?Common Calc Concern: Reaction Times for Blitzing Feats
This time, the practice I'm trying to demolish is entirely my fault. And I don't think I'll be pulling from any specific examples because it's so absurdly widespread. Still, allow me to clarify my premise. Using the subsonic reaction timeframe for any feat in which characters are "completely...
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Yuta certainly got stronger, so I’ll put my crt on hold and add a Shinjuku Showdown key.
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Am working on it
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@Giannysmag @Sir_sun_man
Maki gonna pop up from the inside of Rika and make a sneak attack in SUKUNA with Soul split katana. Saw the theory on Twitter btw not my own.
Maki gonna pop up from the inside of Rika and make a sneak attack in SUKUNA with Soul split katana. Saw the theory on Twitter btw not my own.
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the sneakiest duo fr fr
EldemadeDityjon
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Angel might be the biggest hypocrite in the series, or she is just dumb enough to hate reincarnation and still make a contract with Kenjaku. She could have killed Kenjaku in the Heian Era and stopped others from getting reincarnated. Also, she could have hidden Sukuna's fingers or sealed them away instead of making a contract with Kenjaku and reincarnating, going against her policy. It's kinda funny how she made the contract and reincarnated, thinking she could beat Sukuna alone, while in the past, he literally negged her and the other strongest sorcerers from that era.
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Btw, will Yuta get a Shinjuku Showdown key or will we say that he was just massively holding back in Sendai?
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He wasnt massively holding back in Sendai. That's something used by Yuta stans to cope
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If Yuta doesn't use at least five techniques vs Sukuna I will be pretty sad
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I can see it. There was a month long time-skip and I doubt Yuta wasn't simply sitting on his *** just waiting; he, along w/the rest of the cast, were training and prepping for this potential fight
That is also a possibility; it could go either way for me until we get more info
