You misinterpreted me, what I said is Megumi was fighting back before he talked about Reduced Output the 3rd time, the 2nd time he said his CE Output was fluctuating, he was not performing any attacking and was simply Checking himself out, to say his CE wasn't dropping outside of attacking is disingenuous.
He said it was fluctuating right after he performed an attack, and he was checking himself out. He noticed only when he performed an attack. Right after he then clarified the body is dropping cursed energy output when he’s attacking his allies. To say that his CE was dropping when he wasn’t attacking is what’s really disingenuous here because Sukuna literally clarified it’s when he attacks does the body drop cursed energy.
CE control is default used for Physical enhancement.
He doesn't need to state specifically for his physical stats because that's its most basic function.
It’s also used for cursed techniques and the two don’t necessarily correlate with one another. Your CE output could drop for your techniques but not for your physics so if you’re gonna make the claim his physicals was dropped then you need to provide evidence as such. Because the only clarification we got was that his CT output was the one that was being dropped.
That's merely a bruise not blood, lines don't indicate blood
We literally can see the blood on the corner of his lip. It’d be really w to say that it isn’t blood when we can literally see it with our own two eyes.
Not just the particles there's blood spewing from his arm colored black separate from the Water that makes him bleed.
No? They both can be blood. The participles and the big streaks. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive, you’re the only one here dictating that they are.
That's an assumption it's blood made using particle effects that are depicted in multiple cases of impact, it is not an indicator of bleeding it is an indicator of impact.
These are not mutually exclusive. We can see it’s blood in cases like Yuji punching Sukuna because we can see the make and blood it left behind on his face.
Hell those “big, solid streaks” of blood can even be shown in the fight against Sukuna.
He Didn't notice immediately, all the cuts he gave Yuji were shallow and literally only realized what was happening to his output when Yuji had fully walked up to him and punched him in the face, yes that is "A while"
He literally say him walking up to him and noticed something was off right away. That’s not “a while” if it’s being done right in the very same instance. That’s just a blatantly wrong thing to say.
You're misinterpreting me again and asking for proof of what I didn't imply.
I NEVER said his output was declining before first using his CT
Then why were you arguing Sukuna “didn’t notice the drop” from hitting Yuji twice?
There's no reason Sukuna would have noticed a dropped from hitting Yuji twice, he started to notice when he was continuously slashing at Yuji. It's a thing he had to pay attention to notice
Sure seems like you’re implying Sukuna’s output was being dropped before he started to slash Yuji right here. Otherwise you would’ve said there was no drop. Not that one just wasn’t being noticed.
It was not immediately, Yuji was a few meters away and it took 3 pages of constantly slashing him to fully realize that his Output was falling
3 pages what are you talking about. There was a double spread showing Yuji was getting slashed and the very next panels we see Sukuna noticing something being off.
The proof already lies in his Statement about Megumi restricting his Access to Cursed Energy.
Cursed Energy performs the function of Physical reinforcement with the inability to access his full Output that becomes the case.
Infact the very page Maki arrives he talks about "This Level of Cursed Energy" clearly referencing his Overall CE and not just what his CT could Output, further supporting that the fluctuations is to his CE in general
Yeah the proof is in the statements. CE performs the functions of cursed techniques, so his CE output dropping means his CT output is dropping. No mention of physicals needed since this can just be in reference to his CT’s output. Megumi restricting his access to CE can just be in reference to his CT, like Sukuna says, and not his Physcal reinforcement, which is never said. You trying to conflate them doesn’t change that fact.
Also all Sukuna says when Maki shows up is “I shouldn’t have any trouble killing the kid.” That’s it.
Being surprised by his Speed doesn't make it significant to be an issue, he couldn't get a hit in without external interference.
Sukuna insults Yuji and praises Maki like thrice, he was less significant
But Sukuna’s speed is wavering like you say. So it should be a significant issue if Yuji and Maki are continuously assaulting him. But no drop or fluctuation in speed is ever shown on Sukuna’s part. Only ever in reference to his CT.
Sukuna doesn't hit him physically continuously, even when he hit him with a one off slash he doesn't notice.
Only when he constantly attacks does he notice
So what if he’s not hitting him continuously. He still should notice himself being slower, he should notice his hits doing less damage. But this is never the case. He keeps up with Maki and Yuji just fine, even when Maki “speeds things up.” Even though Sukuna should have a hard time speeding things up if his speed is fluctuating like you say.
And he never has any issues keeping up with Maki from then on despite again his power and speed should be fluctuating when he’s attacking Megumi’s friends.
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If his physicals are fluctuating like you say, then he should have a much harder time keeping up if that’s the case. But no fluctuation shown here.
You’re solely trying to have the manga strictly conform to your personal views in favor of your argument when that doesn’t need to be the case at all.
Nothing says Sukuna needs to continuously attack to notice his CE fluctuating. That’s just you trying to make it be that way for your argument to work.
That will be redundant as the use of Cursed Energy covers Physical enhancement
But it’s not redundant to mention his CT despite the use of cursed energy covering a cursed techniques strength as well?
Your argument seems to rely on the manga not strictly conforming to your personal expectations
I believe I should be the one saying that to you since you’re the one trying to make the claim spot particles can never be blood in the manga.
He does not say it only happens, he says a Strong Rejection happens
Nope. He says
when I attack meaning when he doesn’t, his CE output isn’t being dropped.
Physical Movement isn't hindered by Cursed Energy control it is boosted by it, that's the only thing Megumi was capable of, suppression.
He talks about Overall CE Output and CE, not just CT Output
Nope he talks about CT output, not overall output. We know this because Sukuna specifically mentions his CT output being the one weakened and no fluctuation is ever shown in his physical moves against Yuji and Maki. Meanwhile Sukuna will go out of his way to attack the ground with bus CT just so he could land a physical punch on Maki. It’s his CT output, not his overall CE output.
Not necessarily, Sukuna commonly used Taijutsu when he could simply use his Cursed Technique, it would make more sense if he's using his CT to just cut all the time but he doesn't necessarily do it.
Even before the whole declining output thing Sukuna went ahead to punch Yuji, bite Hana and kick Yuji in the face without ever using Dismantle.
Feelings towards Sukuna's way of combat don't matter
In this very instance he’s literally saying because his cursed technique’s output is being dropped when he attacks his allies, he used his CT on the ground. Him deciding to go for the ground and punch Maki shows him viewing his physicals as the superior move than his CT because he literally mentions his CT being weakened and so decides to punch Maki in the face instead.
You’d have to ignore the entire context of this scene to make the argument you’re making.
Sukuna had constantly praised Maki since she didn't get taken out by Nue and she was constantly putting in work in their fight.
Sukuna praised Maki for how well she was taking his blows and how strong she was. Something which wouldn’t make sense if his blows were weakened by Megumi.
He already knew he had been restricted to a certain level, he was confident that his current level of Cursed Energy could kill Yuji and was impressed that Maki can hold her own despite that
It doesn't prove that his CE wasn't being dropped.
He literally says “Nice” when he punches her in the face and she shrugs it off just fine. This means he’s complimenting her on how well she can take his blows. Something that doesn’t make sense for him to do if his blows are weak.
It absolutely proves his CE wasn’t being dropped. That along with all the other instances of him keeping up with Maki despite his speed allegedly fluctuating all throughout the fights
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