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JoJo AP Revision

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Why would saying "hey, this is the average number of people per household in japan" or something along those lines, and using that to divide up the people of morioh into a gerneral number of households, why would that not be valid? It would even be a low ball since it does not account for public buildings
 
Because the way they measure is it dividing the total population across the number of households. Not only do we not know the total number of households in the town, but using the average number for Japan of 2.4 people per household is completely wrong as shown in the show itself where there's almost always 3 or 4 people in any given home.
 
That sounds like it would balance out between the people who live in the massive amount of people her house and the people who live alone. What households are you referring to? Most of the households we see in Mirioh are made up of only a few people. 4 at most, but usually just 2 or 3. Josuke and his mom, alien boi and his mom, The Nijimura family has 2 or 3 depending on if you count that blob dude, Kira's new family has 3 including him, Koichi has his mom, his sister, and himself, a dad is possible but we don't see him. Either way, what we see does not necessarily represent the whole, and government statistics are more valid than just using what we saw
 
@Iapitus Again the problem is we have no idea how many households are in the town so we cannot do a calc that needs a set number of houses in order to measure their output
 
If we know that there is an average of 2.4 people per house in Japan, then it does both ways. If you have 24 people you should have about 10 houses. Ratios go both ways
 
The lower average also ties in with the large amount of non-residential buildings you will find in a town. Like malls, eateries, arcades etc. which have high power consumptions of their own.
 
There's no reason we can't find an average, we can find a small Japanese town and compare it to Morioh.

Plus there's buildings and stores that nobody necessarily lives in but still contributes to the electrical grid, that would counter the effect of not everyone owning a house.

This is a doable Calc it just requires us to find the numbers. We need a good estimate of how much your average person uses energy. Then we can multiply it by the population as a whole, right?
 
@Iapitus No, thats not how this works. The average is found by knowing the number of houses. Without the number of houses we cannot have a calc.
 
But we can know the average. If we know that in Japan, there are on average 2.4 per building, then the ratio will mathematically go both ways for residential buildings. 2.4 people for every building means that if we have the number of people then we can get an average number of buildings from the number of people.
 
No my guy, thats not how it works. You cant take an average from somewhere else and arbitrarily apply it to a different place, you need the number of households in order to do a calc like this as its based off the number of households. Without that the calc will just be one massive assumption and it will not be accepted.
 
Hate to burst your bubble, but RHCP's feat is ED, and can't be scaled to AP/Dura as unless you disperse an electrical attack entirely you shouldn't scale to its energy, something that was established on another thread.

Valentine's feat comes from the corpse, not him, and is ED, so much so that it's used as an example of it on the page that defines it.

Kars is rated at 7-C because of a multiplier for a feat that we're calling an outlier.

That just leaves Pet Shop's feats, which are just unrealistic and don't really scale to Iggy or anyone's durability to begin with, as I don't remember Iggy taking any of it's attacks without serious injury. Heck, the force of its own attack caused it to self-implode.

All of the feats that can actually be used to scale are in 9-A or 8-C, with one 8-B outlier.

Ergo, unless we see feats in the 8-B range that we can actually scale, we shouldn't use the ship explosion.
 
Also, to further discount the ship explosion feat; it was not caused by a character (past just triggering the explosion), and Jonathan and Dio were not in the epicenter of the explosion, and could not have taken the full blast in any respect.

Also, the diameter of the explosion was highballed to a ridiculous amount. Look how the radius goes well past the panel itself and was practically guessed by the person calcing it.

So we have a feat which shouldn't be where it is to begin with, contradicts consistent 9-A/8-C showings, and you want to use environmental destruction feats and outliers tens of times above that feat to justify it?

What?
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Morioh_map_3.png
This is a map of Morioh. Count the number of black dots/dashes in there and you'll get the number of buildings/households. But who is gonna do that tho?
Click to expand...
I'll say it again, electrical attacks do not scale to durability. They pass through mediums and characters and it would be fallacious to assume anybody actually tanked the entire energy of RHCP's electricity.
 
Quoting from the comments:

The bottom calc is old and incorrect.

It assumes that Magician's Red vaporised the dirt when it's outright stated he dug a hole
 
@Crimson Which are you referring to? If youre talking about the second one we've already talked about why its not useable
 
I hate to really be harping on all the calcs, but how exactly does a smoke inhalation feat relate to AP and Durability?
 
Well, I mean, Avdol says he "dug a hole" but I really really don't think he just got his hands dirty and started digging, especially with how short of a timeframe they had. The way better option is to just blast it with fire and vaporize it out. Which would still in a way be describable as "digging" in the sense of "there was dirt there and now it's not there"
 
@Dargoo KE of the fog most likely

Also im redoing your icicle calc, im not sure what happened but something is...off
 
Look at the picture, the only thing that has smoke coming off of it is the wood.

I'd rather go with what he actually stated than assume he vaporized the dirt, something that usually need statements to support it to assume in the first place, and we have statements against it.

It's also part of a manga, we don't know how long it took him to make that hole.
 
Vaporization doesn't need a statement, Atomization does. All Vaporization needs is either smoke coming off the crater or just nothing there, but no statement of Atomization or Atomic Destruction. The fact there's smoke coming off the wood supports that he just blasted it with fire and made a hole that way

Anime time frames are fine if they don't contradict the source material, and, Avdol had a pretty limited time to take cover.
 
As much as I dislike the thought of seeing JoJo get knocked out of Tier 8, 9-A is starting to look really consistent right now.
 
Also Dio probably gets stomped by Alucard if this goes through
 
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