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Johnny Test General Discussion Thread!

Dragonite007 said:
"Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion"
Unless the show say that Jonhhy "Fate hax" just work he is in the city, Johnny will sitll has his fate hax no matter where he is, because no matter where he is he's still going to be the protagonist in his show.
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Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.
 
Bruhtelho said:
Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.
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Ackchually, what if it'sh a shide character he'hs fashing? :geek:
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Ackchually, what if it'sh a shide character he'hs fashing? :geek:
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technically if its not in his universe than him being the Star still doesn't work since for example Deku is the main protagonist of MHA so he'd be the star of that show, honestly the whole "star of the show was the reason he survived" is so confusing now.
 
Bruhtelho said:
technically if its not in his universe than him being the Star still doesn't work since for example Deku is the main protagonist of MHA so he'd be the star of that show, honestly the whole "star of the show was the reason he survived" is so confusing now.
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This is why I didn't consider that to be an ability
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I'd still argue Fate Manipulation works, and that Dukey's quote was just a snarky 4th Wall Break.
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if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.
 
Bruhtelho said:
if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.
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Then I guess we just create a CRT changing the ability to Supernatural Luck? I guess him living instead of dying from an attack that was meant to kill him is luck.
 
Bruhtelho said:
Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.
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Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"
 
Dragonite007 said:
Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"
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its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Then I guess we just create a CRT changing the ability to Supernatural Luck? I guess him living instead of dying from an attack that was meant to kill him is luck.
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I think thats the best option since it seems the whole "He's the star of the show" was merely a 4th wall break gag and shouldn't be taken to literally.
 
Bruhtelho said:
if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.
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I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)
 
Bruhtelho said:
its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.
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I don't think that's a great example to use tbf.

Dragonite007 said:
Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"
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We're quite literally debating if the feat was even Fate Manip/Immortality to begin with lol.

Bruhtelho said:
I think thats the best option since it seems the whole "He's the star of the show" was merely a 4th wall break gag and shouldn't be taken to literally.
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So uhhh...

Who's gonna make it?
 
Dragonite007 said:
I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)
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Plot Manipulation and Plot Armor are 2 very different things, honestly this just seems like plot armor since Johnny survived a dangerous situation because they are needed for the plot to continue.
 
Dragonite007 said:
I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)
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It's for sure not Fate Hax, now that we're looking deeper into it.

Toon Force is kind of a given considering it's Johnny Test.

Plot Hax I'm not confident on, though the chances of it being Plot Manip is a bit higher.

Supernatural Luck honestly seems like the best case scenario here.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Toon Force is kind of a given considering it's Johnny Test.

Plot Hax I'm not confident on, though the chances of it being Plot Manip is a bit higher.

Supernatural Luck honestly seems like the best case scenario here.
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Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.
 
Bruhtelho said:
Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.
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Then we can probably make a CRT proposing it as Supernatural Luck then, right?
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Then we can probably make a CRT proposing it as Supernatural Luck then, right?
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the CRT doesn't gotta be anything grand just like "Minor Johnny Test ability fix" simply removing his Fate and Immortality cause "he's the star of the show" was taken to literally, merely being a 4th wall break gag, and putting "survived a power poot that was suppose to kill him" under supernatural luck.
 
Bruhtelho said:
its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.
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Actually, doens't matter if he has no control of this, this still be a skill for Johnny. Skills that the user does not control or even know the skill exists are still applicable to combat and count as hax for the character.
 
Bruhtelho said:
the CRT doesn't gotta be anything grand just like "Minor Johnny Test ability fix" simply removing his Fate and Immortality cause "he's the star of the show" was taken to literally, merely being a 4th wall break gag, and putting "survived a power poot that was suppose to kill him" under supernatural luck.
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Can you make the CRT this time? Or someone else?
 
Dragonite007 said:
Actually, doens't matter if he has no control of this, this still be a skill for Johnny. Skills that the user does not control or even know the skill exists are still applicable to combat and count as hax for the character.
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It doesn't really matter now.
 
Bruhtelho said:
Plot Manipulation and Plot Armor are 2 very different things, honestly this just seems like plot armor since Johnny survived a dangerous situation because they are needed for the plot to continue.
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Depending on how the verse treats Plot Armor it could still be Plot Manipulation, the verse just needs to say that: The narrative/story has changed (Or something similar) to prevent the character's death
 
Bruhtelho said:
Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.
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Actually, you don't need affecting the plot on your own, the story altering itself to protect your life also counts.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
He's roughly 80.3 Megajoules.
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Hat Kid or characters from the verse: Above 197.35 Megajoules

maybe a few Undertale characters: 99.6 Megajoules

possibly Deltarune? but i'm pretty sure they might oneshot: 316.21 Megajoules

Cuphead: 173.1 Megajoules

You could possibly make a WWE matchup work

Gumball Watterson: 49.24 Megajoules

probably a lot more but those are the ones I thought of off the top of my head
 
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