Johnny Test General Discussion Thread!

[Bruhtelho]

"Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion"
Unless the show say that Jonhhy "Fate hax" just work he is in the city, Johnny will sitll has his fate hax no matter where he is, because no matter where he is he's still going to be the protagonist in his show.

Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.

Ackchually, what if it'sh a shide character he'hs fashing?

 

[Bruhtelho]

Ackchually, what if it'sh a shide character he'hs fashing?

technically if its not in his universe than him being the Star still doesn't work since for example Deku is the main protagonist of MHA so he'd be the star of that show, honestly the whole "star of the show was the reason he survived" is so confusing now.

 

[Propellus]

technically if its not in his universe than him being the Star still doesn't work since for example Deku is the main protagonist of MHA so he'd be the star of that show, honestly the whole "star of the show was the reason he survived" is so confusing now.

This is why I didn't consider that to be an ability

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'd still argue Fate Manipulation works, and that Dukey's quote was just a snarky 4th Wall Break.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I'd still argue Fate Manipulation works, and that Dukey's quote was just a snarky 4th Wall Break.

if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It'd be funny seeing Johnny's Immortality hax getting removed a day after they were applied.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.

Then I guess we just create a CRT changing the ability to Supernatural Luck? I guess him living instead of dying from an attack that was meant to kill him is luck.

 

[Dragonite007]

Johnny is only the star of the show in HIS show specifically Johnny Test and anything within it, he's not gonna be the star of the show everyone he goes technically cause other characters are that very thing.

Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"

 

[Bruhtelho]

Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"

its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Then I guess we just create a CRT changing the ability to Supernatural Luck? I guess him living instead of dying from an attack that was meant to kill him is luck.

I think thats the best option since it seems the whole "He's the star of the show" was merely a 4th wall break gag and shouldn't be taken to literally.

 

[Dragonite007]

if it was just Dukey breaking the 4th wall than both his fate and immortality wouldn't work cause thats what those both reply on is that statement alone, without it it'd probably just be Supernatural Luck.

I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.

I don't think that's a great example to use tbf.

Johnny will still has his fate hax, because he is the star of his show, doesn't matter where he is.

I will give an example: Consider that I have immortality, and that immortality is because of the universe in which the story takes place. If I am used in a battle, because of the SBA I would still have this immortality, because this is my skill and it influences my skills, so it fulfills the requirement of "External Influence"

We're quite literally debating if the feat was even Fate Manip/Immortality to begin with lol.

I think thats the best option since it seems the whole "He's the star of the show" was merely a 4th wall break gag and shouldn't be taken to literally.

So uhhh...

Who's gonna make it?

 

[Bruhtelho]

I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)

Plot Manipulation and Plot Armor are 2 very different things, honestly this just seems like plot armor since Johnny survived a dangerous situation because they are needed for the plot to continue.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I was defending minor Plot Manipulation (or in another words plot armor), but this skill has so little information that it could be a lot of things (Supernatural Luck, Plot has, Fate hax, Toon Force,...)

It's for sure not Fate Hax, now that we're looking deeper into it.

Toon Force is kind of a given considering it's Johnny Test.

Plot Hax I'm not confident on, though the chances of it being Plot Manip is a bit higher.

Supernatural Luck honestly seems like the best case scenario here.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Toon Force is kind of a given considering it's Johnny Test.

Plot Hax I'm not confident on, though the chances of it being Plot Manip is a bit higher.

Supernatural Luck honestly seems like the best case scenario here.

Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.

Then we can probably make a CRT proposing it as Supernatural Luck then, right?

 

[Bruhtelho]

Then we can probably make a CRT proposing it as Supernatural Luck then, right?

the CRT doesn't gotta be anything grand just like "Minor Johnny Test ability fix" simply removing his Fate and Immortality cause "he's the star of the show" was taken to literally, merely being a 4th wall break gag, and putting "survived a power poot that was suppose to kill him" under supernatural luck.

 

[Dragonite007]

its not Johnny's skill tho cause he has no control over it, him being the star is the producers of Johnny Test, they could easily change the star to Dukey would Johnny still count as the star?.

Actually, doens't matter if he has no control of this, this still be a skill for Johnny. Skills that the user does not control or even know the skill exists are still applicable to combat and count as hax for the character.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

the CRT doesn't gotta be anything grand just like "Minor Johnny Test ability fix" simply removing his Fate and Immortality cause "he's the star of the show" was taken to literally, merely being a 4th wall break gag, and putting "survived a power poot that was suppose to kill him" under supernatural luck.

Can you make the CRT this time? Or someone else?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Actually, doens't matter if he has no control of this, this still be a skill for Johnny. Skills that the user does not control or even know the skill exists are still applicable to combat and count as hax for the character.

It doesn't really matter now.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Can you make the CRT this time? Or someone else?

I could do it quickly.

 

[Dragonite007]

Plot Manipulation and Plot Armor are 2 very different things, honestly this just seems like plot armor since Johnny survived a dangerous situation because they are needed for the plot to continue.

Depending on how the verse treats Plot Armor it could still be Plot Manipulation, the verse just needs to say that: The narrative/story has changed (Or something similar) to prevent the character's death

 

[Dragonite007]

It doesn't really matter now.

Actually, you still have a the same ability ("Fate hax with discount") it will only have another name, and can be ignored if the enemy resists or nullifies Supernatural Luck

 

[Bruhtelho]

It has been done

 

[Dragonite007]

Johnny's already got Toon Force like you've said, definitely not plot hax cause Johnny is not affecting the plot on his own, this instance is just plot armor, its most likely just another thing for Johnny's supernatural luck.

Actually, you don't need affecting the plot on your own, the story altering itself to protect your life also counts.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Actually, you don't need affecting the plot on your own, the story altering itself to protect your life also counts.

Isn't that just Fate Manip as opposed to Plot Manip?

 

[Dragonite007]

Isn't that just Fate Manip as opposed to Plot Manip?

No, If Story recognizes itself as a meta-Story, it's Plot Manipulation

 

[RandomGuy2345]

No, If Story recognizes itself as a meta-Story, it's Plot Manipulation

Can you give your opinion on the CRT then?

It has been done

Here it is.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So what matchups ideas for 9-A Johnny Test do y'all have?

 

[Bruhtelho]

So what matchups ideas for 9-A Johnny Test do y'all have?

what is his 9-A AP? I may have a few that could work

 

[RandomGuy2345]

what is his 9-A AP? I may have a few that could work

He's roughly 80.3 Megajoules.

 

[Bruhtelho]

He's roughly 80.3 Megajoules.

Hat Kid or characters from the verse: Above 197.35 Megajoules

maybe a few Undertale characters: 99.6 Megajoules

possibly Deltarune? but i'm pretty sure they might oneshot: 316.21 Megajoules

Cuphead: 173.1 Megajoules

You could possibly make a WWE matchup work

Gumball Watterson: 49.24 Megajoules

probably a lot more but those are the ones I thought of off the top of my head

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Gumball vs Johnny is probably the most thematic.

Johnny Test vs WWE would be funny asf ngl.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Though I was planning on making Johnny vs Ihwa.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Suchan Jang could also work. Or Yu

 

[Propellus]

What about 9-A D&D characters?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Suchan Jang could also work. Or Yu

Yu vs Johnny Test would get a lot of traction, too.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What about 9-A D&D characters?

I will never trust a D&D character.

That's the last verse I'd make a matchup for.

 

[Bruhtelho]

That's the last verse I'd make a matchup for.

Me but with Kamen Rider.