Jirachi's Fate Manipulation

[The_real_cal_howard]

Normally, I'd just add an ability because it's just an ability, but this seems important.

So, in Explorers of Sky, during a sidegame prequel Bidoof wishes on Jirahi to have new rookies underneath him as new friends. Shortly after, the events of the game transpire, which starts with the main protagonist and his partner joining as rookies.

 

[The_Everlasting]

That sounds a bit too much of an extrapolation.

Jirachi could've done any number of things than manipulate fate itself to do it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Furthermore, Doom Desire is stated to be Jirachi choosing the destiny of the target.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Where?

Genuine question because moves don't give descriptions like that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Doom_Desire_III.png

 

[NeoZex6399]

Seems reasonable to me, I therefore agree with the addition.

 

[NeoZex6399]

bump.

 

[PaChi2]

I mean, jirachi is a wish granting pokemon. Even if it has Fate manipulation, it can only access it if someone makes a wish. I'd leave it as Reality Warping and mark this feat.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

^Not true. Unless I'm mistaking it as something else, Jirachi can grant its own wishes.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What Professor said. We don't treat most wish granting characters like their powers only activate under a wish (i.e: Shenron, Porunga, Genie, Jafar, Cosmo, Wanda)

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I'm pretty sure the only one who needs a wish from others to use it is Desiree from Danny Phantom. Jirachi shouldnt be included.

 

[PaChi2]

Well, Jirachi hasnt shown reality warping besides wishes that I know of.

But whatever.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Well, we know that Jirachi can use his abilities without the need for someone to make a wish:

"A Wish Pokémon. It's said to awaken for seven days once every thousand years, with the ability to grant any wish asked of it. It is truly a Pokémon of which dreams are made. In combat it uses its wish power to attack. Its attack, Doom Desire, which causes light to rain down from the heavens to do tremendous damage, is especially powerful."

"Since Jirachi is only awake for seven days every one thousand years, it's an even bigger sleeper than Snorlax! It can't just be sleeping the whole time, though. It's probably hard at work deep in the land of dreams, strengthening its ability to grant people's wishes. If it detects danger while asleep, it can fight without even waking up!"

 

[NeoZex6399]

bump.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Also shouldnt Jirachi have Type 1 Immortality?

Given it constantly rises and sleeps for thousands of years and seemingly never ages.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Longevity, though we should stick to the OP.

 

[NeoZex6399]

It should also be added that Jirachi is able to fight even when he sleeps.

 

[NeoZex6399]

bump.

 

[PaChi2]

Jirachi should have fate manip. Can we add it now?

 

[Antvasima]

The Everlasting disagreed, and does have a point.

 

[NeoZex6399]

bump.

 

[Antvasima]

Again, The Everlasting disagreed, and seemed to make sense.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Yes but we (or at least Cal) brought up a counter answer for that, Jirachis Doom Desire move being described to control destiny and it never got questioned after that.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that "Limited Fate Manipulation" might be acceptable to use then.