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"Its your big break in TV. Welcome to rework time bitch!" (Freddy Krueger)
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ShionAH
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@Qawsedf234 should be pinged
Dragonite007
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Seens fine
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Been a while since I've seen Freddy vs Jason, so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jason tanking attacks from Freddy in the dream world? Or was Freddy just messing around.
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Nigh-Omnipresence seens fine to me, but Nigh-Omniscience I'm not sure, so I'm neutral in Nigh-Omniscience
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I disagree with L2-C. "I will remake" does not necessarily mean a complete re-creation, destroying and creating a new one etc. He is just trying to imply that he is going to reorganize it, but if there is a context that directly implies that he is going to remake (recreate) it, my opinion may change.
No opinion about the rest rn.
No opinion about the rest rn.
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Still think it was stupid that they gave Jason a fear of water when he was fine with it in part 8.....
Anyways thanks for answering, I should watch these movies again for this Halloween season
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NERD! I still hate it! The fights were cool thoughACTUALLY
Jason did not fear water in the movie, Freddy went inside his mind and memories to find the last fear he had. Water. Which he later abused the **** out of which is why he “fears” water in the plot
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Oh yeah, don't know if it pertains to this thread, but Jason should probably have a "+" added to his wall level key in his undead state. Since Freddy has it yeah?
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In the AP section of the "Real World" key, the "Wall level+" should be "Wall level". His Durability should be "At least Wall level" since he survived hits and several attacks from Jason.
Regarding his "Dream World" key, why is his Durability "At least Small Building level, likely higher" if his Striking Strength is 7-A?, and shouldn't level 7-A be solely for his powers and not for his physical attacks?
I don't agree with Nigh-Omniscience.
Everything else looks fine, good work.
Regarding his "Dream World" key, why is his Durability "At least Small Building level, likely higher" if his Striking Strength is 7-A?, and shouldn't level 7-A be solely for his powers and not for his physical attacks?
I don't agree with Nigh-Omniscience.
Everything else looks fine, good work.
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Not anymore, the boiler calculation was debunked, a new calculation was made and it gave less than 200 kJ. Now Undead Jason simply scales well above his human key.
Based on that, the Striking Strength of the "Dream World" key should be lowered to "At least 9-B (Can damage Jason and throw him several meters)." I'm also not sure I scale the Durability of this key to Freddy's Durability with the Necronomicon.
EDIT: Out of curiosity, what happened to that Freddy 2-C thing?
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If he can warp and/or distort the entirety of the structure in question, yes
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3-A at best if time isn't involved.
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Very vague.
Furthermore, it is not Japanese here to say that world can mean universe. Only if you show other moments that the word "World" is used for universe in the series.
So I disagree with Low 2-C.
EDIT: And even if you prove this, you would have to show why it is about the timeline and not the 3-A universe.
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But is it in the context of him controlling the entire space-time continuum?
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Except that he in the dream world is 7-A with the range of "At least Kilometers with most abilities, Interdimensional with Telepathy"
So this is not even accepted.
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Because Freddy does not control the entirety of the dream world until he gains enough power to break the walls of reality and gain full control over both the real world and dream world.
Plus he still controls a time and space continuum that is the size of a town. Its on the abilities on the top as you can see.
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I'm not for Tier 3/2 Freddy (the most he ever did was make a storm), but giving him "At least 7-A" for his Necronomicon tier is fine.
Lifting strength needs to be split up for keys.
Base Freddy various at. Sometimes he's 9-C and sometimes he's 9-B, so it might be worth giving him a various tier like Jason's possessed bodies.
Nigh-Omniscience and Nigh-Omnipresence also isn't supported.
Lifting strength needs to be split up for keys.
Base Freddy various at. Sometimes he's 9-C and sometimes he's 9-B, so it might be worth giving him a various tier like Jason's possessed bodies.
Nigh-Omniscience and Nigh-Omnipresence also isn't supported.
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Most it would justify is a Tier 6 rating.
Dream Freddy > human Freddy and human Freddy never matched or overpowered Jason to my knowledge.
The weaker versions of IRL Freddy are around this level to my memory, with normal people being able to overpower him. NMoES 2 and FvJ were him at his maximum real world strength feat wise.
That's more like duplication/cloning himself rather than nigh-omnipresence
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6-A?
I am kinda confused, we see Real Freddy fight against and hold his own against Jason
I dont remember tbh, most of the time he got trapped/outsmarted in the real world. For example in the first movie Nancy burned him
I guess thats fine. Idk I feel like Nigh-Omni feels better in context but Ig...
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Not really sure about the Universe level+, but so far it's alright. Though I think you should provide a better explanation on Freddy's Nigh-Omniscience
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In the first movie, he was hit with a sledgehammer and Nancy hit him with a chair that broke against his back. In the second movie he went through a teenager and a wooden door with his claws, was not affected when they tried to stab him with a kitchen knife, went through the door of a house (it was a wooden and glass door), and killed several people at a party. The only time "a normal human" overpowered him was when his daughter broke his hand, stabbed him with a bunch of weapons, and then blew him up. So if there's any evidence that Freddy actually varies in power (rather than his daughter simply being 9-B) then I agree with "Varies. 9-C to 9-B"
Yes, he briefly fought Jason. He also pushed a container full of sand.
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Lifting strength isn't scaled like AP. You need an example showing Freddy matching Jason's strength to scale to him. To my memory he was always overpowered by Jason when it came to pure strength.
Idk honestly. But it's not Tier 2 or even Tier 5
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Real World Freddy downscaling is probably fine then.
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Which Jason was this, btw?
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Zombie Jason
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