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Issues with Patchy the Pirate

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There's no reason he couldn't do it for himself. He did it towards other characters. Even if he didn't use plot hacks on himself. He used it to make the person he wanted to have win win. And change what they did.
 
The pen or the sword said:
Isn't spongebob a show in patchy's view as in to him the characters are ficticious in relation to him?
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he did meet spongebob in the 20th anniversary special by launching himself to the ocean ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»
 
he did meet spongebob in the 20th anniversary special by launching himself to the ocean ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

That was explicity a hallucination.
 
The Wright Way said:
he did meet spongebob in the 20th anniversary special by launching himself to the ocean ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»
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That was explicity a hallucination.
it really wasnt, if you watch the full episode you will understand (I'm 99% sure youre mistaking it for Truth or Square, the 10th anniversary special, the episode im talking about is Spongebob's Big Birthday Blowout)
 
It's.. inconsistent. It calls it a show sometimes

But also Patchy has gone and seen them more than once. Patchy also does acknowledge them as real at times too.

The obvious solution is Spongebob is a reality show filmed without their consent
 
See. This actually was intended. Patchy was supposed to be made out to joke on poor budget.

Why his peg leg would be on one leg, then the other. same with his hook and eyepatch. Potty being held up by strings. Ect. It was making a joke on inconsistency and such. It's more consistent that they are real by the times he has acknowledged it and gone there before. But it's done both
 
Buttersamuri said:
They aren't though. Barney was specifically banned himself. But others aren't currently. That's a massive thread you'd need to make to have that happe
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It has been discussed a lot already, Barney is the only one with this issue as of now (Excluding Patchy now, of course). Virtually anything you can bring up doesn't have the issue of "leading with X" as we know they can only punch or ram into the opponent in all scenarios (Thomas the Tank Engine, for example, he doesn't really fight in canon at all, but ther's really nothing else he can do to "attack" beyond just going to hit the opponent with his body). Even characters that start with the worst then develop from there like Medaka are more consistent as we do know factually that's the character's mindset.

Here, however, you have to extrapolate every single time the strategies Patchy may attemp to fanfiction levels, and his character for these is so vague wank and downplay go around every minute, so I'm very inclined for him just being match banned, period.
 
Banning him would again be a no. It should not happen. Else ban every single character that hasn't fought in canon. People like Phoenix Wright. Guess he would be banned too. Even ban characters who wouldn't have a problem with fighting, they just haven't on screen. Much like Patchy.

Versus threads are a theoretical what if they did get in a fight. Using what we do know to make a logical guess on how they would react and handle a fight should they be willing too.
 
The Calaca said:
I guess he's fine to stay unbanned, but the obvious wank with his In-character attittude should be dropped.
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The main issue with Patchy isn't the fact that doesn't really use his hax in combat (though that is still an issue by itself), it's the fact that Patchy's hax abilities keeps on getting extrapolated beyond what he has shown on the canon simply because users feel the need to justify the lack of extent of his feats by having Patchy use them in a way that he has never shown the extent of in the canon simply by using the comparisons that other characters in other fictio (which pretty much has no association with Patchy outside of performing abilities of similar types to Patchy) with abilities like Plot Manipulation whom has shown the extent of those abilities (E.g. Patchy has never shown any feats of specifically defeating a character in a way that bypass their resilient or regenerative feats that allows them to survive a specific level of destruction, but because other characters in other fictio has shown feats of performing feats such as Existence Erasure or Power Nullification, Patchy will be able to erase a character from existence or nullify all their abilities that allows them to survive because other fictional characters with that ability can do it even though he himself has not shown such feats/scans, etc.).

If many character in this site is assumed to have the extent of their abilities be limited based on what their best feats/scans are with it in a Versus context to avoid NLF, then I don't see why Patchy should be an exception to this simply because he has never been in an actual combat situation.
 
What Wokistan said.

It's one thing to conclude that he would fight, based on his personality. In this case, for this specific character, from what I know of him, it's reasonable to think he would fight.

What is less reasonable is assuming he would use abilities in ways he hasn't been shown, nor suggested to use.

A character might do something because it's common sense (Like fire a gun they keep on their person.) or expected of their character's stereotype (Like a pirate using a sword or a cannon.)....

....But if they have some kind of ability that's unusual, especially for their kind of character, and they have not used, nor do they have statements supporting their use of it in combat, then we can't assume they'll use it, LET ALONE assume they'll use it in a specific way. We go by what the fiction and often, the authors of the fiction tells us clearly.

What a character will do in Vs Threads must be based on what actions or statements support them doing, or are very easily reasoned/common sense decisions for them to make. (Excluding maybe extremely high intelligence characters.)

We can't apply our own individual senses of logic to how characters will act, even in Vs Threads if they aren't supported by the fiction, because it's the fiction in charge of their behaviour not our thoughts.

Ex: Sonic has the abilities to capture Eggman himself, seizing from his mech if need be, and take him to a prison and trap him there. But if that's not how that Sonic usually acts, then we can't say he'd do that, because there isn't a basis he'd choose to do that, as opposed to just demolishing his stuff.
 
The Calaca said:
I guess he's fine to stay unbanned, but the obvious wank with his In-character attittude should be dropped.
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Kinda late, but for almost all of his matches he's been bloodlusted, so it would be reasonable to say he starts off with hax
 
See, the fact that people only does bloodlusted matches with him further proves my point

"We dont know how he fight, so lets bloodlust him as an excuse for him to use his powers"
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
See, the fact that people only does bloodlusted matches with him further proves my point

"We dont know how he fight, so lets bloodlust him as an excuse for him to use his powers"
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He's had 2 in-character matches though? (Although tbf the one against Sans might need to be redone)
 
And Im willing to bet people argued he'd use his hax in those matches, we don't know how he acts in character so we force a bloodlust or people push the idea he'll use his hax in character. This sounds like barney all over again.
 
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