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The series looks ridiculously underwhelming compare to the original one
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Is Lucifer Vol. 2 Canon to DC?
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I don't think it's cannon to DC, though i could be wrong.
It started somewhat decently but it went bad really quickly.It's a shame really both the Sandman and Lucifer were amazing series but this one gets worse and worse as the story progresses.
It started somewhat decently but it went bad really quickly.It's a shame really both the Sandman and Lucifer were amazing series but this one gets worse and worse as the story progresses.
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The storyline and the plot seems completely ridiculous to be cannon to DC . It's the worst lucifer series without a shadow of a doubt and also the characters portrayed far unimpressive ( even including the presence ) .
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Have you read the most recent chapter, the presence was lying on a bed (or a throne, idk) asking Raphael to heal him, like wtf?
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Okay.
Manhattan is not stronger than Lucifer unless he shows 1-A feats.
Secondly, it's a direct sequel to a storyline that is canon featuring canon storylines. It just has a severe case of clueless writers.
Manhattan is not stronger than Lucifer unless he shows 1-A feats.
Secondly, it's a direct sequel to a storyline that is canon featuring canon storylines. It just has a severe case of clueless writers.
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The average internet nerd thinks that Dr Manhattan is the most powerful being in all of fiction.So i'm not that surprized by this, and Vertigo doesn't seem to care that much about impressive battles, they focus(ed) more on the story (though they had their own share of stupid writting).
@Matthew Well that's unfortunate, it's always sad to something you like turn into something bad.
@Matthew Well that's unfortunate, it's always sad to something you like turn into something bad.
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To be fair, Dr.Manhattan was just stated by Mr.Mxyzptlk to be "Far more terrifying than myself".
To be fair, Dr.Manhattan was just stated by Mr.Mxyzptlk to be "Far more terrifying than myself".
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In the same comic line, Ozymandias was able to imprison Mr. Mxyzptlk. The power discrepancy is real...
In the same comic line, Ozymandias was able to imprison Mr. Mxyzptlk. The power discrepancy is real...
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That's something i didn't know.
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lucifer iisue #17 was appaling . I don't even know how someone could even write a god tiers that badly . I think the current series seems to focus more on TV shows then the actual comic run .Gwynbleiddd said:
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It's cannon to old series but I doubt it's cannon to the DC continuity .
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https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/cruelestashley/blog/lucifer-vol-2-dissection/131015/
^^ I found a blog made by a girl from comicvine made an entire summary describing the whole current series from vol 1 to 17 . She read the entire previous series as well to sort out the inconsistencies .
The current series is too inconsistent to be taken seriously .
^^ I found a blog made by a girl from comicvine made an entire summary describing the whole current series from vol 1 to 17 . She read the entire previous series as well to sort out the inconsistencies .
The current series is too inconsistent to be taken seriously .
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Wait, a High 2-A got imprisoned by a 9-B? wtf is going on?Reppuzan said:
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^^ That 9b thing is said to exist beyond space and time in green lantern corps 17 issue
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Ozymandias is the smartest man alive. There are some humans who tech with prep is OP.
Ozymandias is the smartest man alive. There are some humans who tech with prep is OP.
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Any long-term fiction is inconsistent. Big universes like Warhammer and Star Wars are full of them, and so are Live-Action TV Shows like Doctor Who and Supernatural.
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^^ The characters that were originally killed in the series are somehow still alive .RIchard Kadrey also thinks that vertigo is seperate from DC and writes in his own way .
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Current issue released today. The storyline makes no sense and the writer doesn't treat lucifer and other characters powerful as the old series.
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Not only that, but Lucifer acts completely out of character.
Helping people, not killing his son etc.
Also for some reason they treat Michael like a complete fodder.He doesn't even say a word.
Helping people, not killing his son etc.
Also for some reason they treat Michael like a complete fodder.He doesn't even say a word.
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According to some twitter statements Holy black and Richard kadrey doesn't know that original run of lucifer being cannon to Dc . They seem to focus more on TV series .She /He treats the story neglecting from Dc continuity. They doesn't even know about the characters in the series from original run .
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Well, I don't think it's quite that extreme.
It's not that the storyline doesn't make any sense, it's just that it doesn't mesh well with the tone established in the predecessors, Sandman and Lucifer. This new series wants to be hip and edgy and cool and it isn't that great.
I don't feel Lucifer's out of character. Rather, I believe he's had a lot of character development over the last 15 issues. He's mellowed out considerably, and has become more altruistic / emotive.
Michael is like that because he's brainwashed.
However, I do agree that the way the new writer is treating the power levels is pathetic. At least Holy Black seemed to hide it by not focusing on fights, and keeping shit ambiguous. And it did still feature good feats like angels crossing universes in seconds and punching each other across universes, and Yahweh's statements that Lucy and Michael were invented to create worlds (i.e, all of existence).
But this new run is... weird.
For one thing, Richard doesn't seem to get that the Morningstar powers basically allow you to do everything. Instead he just treats it as enery beams. And he also doesn't get that the Demiurgic Archangels are meant to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else. The very idea of Lucifer engaging in combat while at 100% with anyone other than his brothers is ridiculous. And Lucifer apparently needs a sword to manipulate Space-Time now.
It's not that the storyline doesn't make any sense, it's just that it doesn't mesh well with the tone established in the predecessors, Sandman and Lucifer. This new series wants to be hip and edgy and cool and it isn't that great.
I don't feel Lucifer's out of character. Rather, I believe he's had a lot of character development over the last 15 issues. He's mellowed out considerably, and has become more altruistic / emotive.
Michael is like that because he's brainwashed.
However, I do agree that the way the new writer is treating the power levels is pathetic. At least Holy Black seemed to hide it by not focusing on fights, and keeping shit ambiguous. And it did still feature good feats like angels crossing universes in seconds and punching each other across universes, and Yahweh's statements that Lucy and Michael were invented to create worlds (i.e, all of existence).
But this new run is... weird.
For one thing, Richard doesn't seem to get that the Morningstar powers basically allow you to do everything. Instead he just treats it as enery beams. And he also doesn't get that the Demiurgic Archangels are meant to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else. The very idea of Lucifer engaging in combat while at 100% with anyone other than his brothers is ridiculous. And Lucifer apparently needs a sword to manipulate Space-Time now.
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In original run , lucifer with a wave of his hand was able to dim all the stars in the creation . Sentinel stars were responsible for forging green lantern central battery and were threatening to tear apart all of creation and manipulated the very energy of void and created infinite doors for every realm , worlds , dimensions including heaven and hell and warped a creation that stretched towards the infinity reaches of space and time until reaching the white void and after being completely axed of his Morningstar powers he was still not only able to comprehend the white void but he was also able to fuse with the void and see countless creations inside it .
The current series haven't displayed 0.1 percent of lucifers true power . I doubt either of the writers are aware of original run and characters roles in the creation.
The current series haven't displayed 0.1 percent of lucifers true power . I doubt either of the writers are aware of original run and characters roles in the creation.
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Easy, you are wanking Lucifer a bit. Some of what you say is out of context.
Easy, you are wanking Lucifer a bit. Some of what you say is out of context.
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Hmm. This does seem like a case similar to Demonbane and its relationship to DYN Freaks, which suddenly completely contradicted the established power levels, so we chose to ignore it.
Perhaps we should do the same thing here as well? I don't think that it would really change any of our current power levels, but we would need to rewrite some profile sections for The Presence, etcetera.
Perhaps we should do the same thing here as well? I don't think that it would really change any of our current power levels, but we would need to rewrite some profile sections for The Presence, etcetera.
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Ok
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I don't think it's that, it's just a weird writer.
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