Infinite Zamasu Jiren and Goku

[Slim00001]

Ok why is infinite Zamasu Low Multiversal While jiren and goku are universal + when Jiren was confirmed to be the strongest foe in dragon ball history both the spoilers and by character statements which definitely includes Infinite Zamasu Plus MUI goku kicked ass of a power up pissed off Buff Jiren in MUI

and Zamasu was effecting multiple timelines and universes

 

[Dark649]

Jiren and MUI Goku are stronger than the Infinite Zamasu that was initially encompassing the universe and its space-time due to Jiren statements from Shin/Guidebooks and etc. of being the strongest foe at the time, Zamasu would have become much stronger than them if he took ever other universes, but was stopped by Zen'o.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

2-C Infinite Zamasu didn't happen in the show. That was eventually going to happen but as Dark already mentioned, got stopped by Zeno before it could. So Goku and Jiren are only superior to Low 2-C Infinite Zamasu, not the 2-C one.

 

[Slim00001]

He had already spread through out the universe and was now leaking to other timelines yeah Zeno stopped him but if that was the case then he shouldve wiped out the entire U7 instead of the entire timeline and that shouldve done the trick but instead of wiping out U7 he wiped out the entire timeline indicating that indeed he had spread to more than 1 universe in that timeline

PLUS the argument that Zeno is a reckless child shouldnt be valid as in the T.O.P he was wiping out one universe at a time and did so in the past as well

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

One timeline = one universal space-time continuum.

 

[Slim00001]

One timeline = one universal space-time continuum.

thats not how it works with the dragon ball cosmology at all

in dragon ball 1 timeline = 12 universe space time continuum

thats why zeno is low multiversal because he erased F. Trunks timeline which had 12 universes and zamasu was spread in that entire time PLUS was leaking into other timelines

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

No, Gowasu stated that Zamasu was becoming one with the universe, thus Low 2-C. He was beginning to leak into other timelines, but was destroyed by Zeno before he could take over them and become 2-C.

Goku and Jiren thus are only > Low 2-C Zamasu.

 

[Slim00001]

he wasnt spreading anymore he did what he had to zeno destroyed the timeline because zamasu was spread across the entire timeline AND THEN he began leaking into other timelines

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I think there oughta be a new discussion rule put in place.

"Do not upgrade Goku and Jiren to 2-C based on statements of Jiren being superior to Infinite Zamasu. Infinite Zamasu never became 2-C in the show and took over one universe before Zeno erased him. They are only superior to the Low 2-C version."

 

[AKM sama]

Infinite Zamasu never became 2-C. He eventually would have, over time. But he was erased while he was Low 2-C and Jiren and Goku are stronger than that.

 

[Akreious]

I think there oughta be a new discussion rule put in place.
"Do not upgrade Goku and Jiren to 2-C based on statements of Jiren being superior to Infinite Zamasu. Infinite Zamasu never became 2-C in the show and took over one universe before Zeno erased him. They are only superior to the Low 2-C version."

Seems a bit overkill to make an entirely new rule just for this, huh...?

 

[Slim00001]

I think there oughta be a new discussion rule put in place.
"Do not upgrade Goku and Jiren to 2-C based on statements of Jiren being superior to Infinite Zamasu. Infinite Zamasu never became 2-C in the show and took over one universe before Zeno erased him. They are only superior to the Low 2-C version."

How would he eventually have when he stopped doing what he was doing? And by your "Eventually" Logic he would even become stronger than Zeno if that were the case

 

[Slim00001]

Also you say he was able to escape to other space time continums when but not the other universes in his own space time continum?