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And here, this just from guides so it’s not a primary argument really but this exact thing is backed up in every source material and it’s raws.
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Infinite Speed Saint seiya Upgrade
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And here, this just from guides so it’s not a primary argument really but this exact thing is backed up in every source material and it’s raws.
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Looks good, I still agree with Infinite speed.
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ok, your wording was very confusing, but that's fine.
I also agree that Gold Saint level characters are in need of a speed downgrade, only 1 Gold Saint in the whole franchise has consistent FTL feats (all of which were treated as the very peak of that characters power at the time) and no other Gold Saint without has ever replicated those feats without the need of a miracle or 9th sense.
The thing is however, this CRT is only concerning characters like god cloths and olympians, Gold Saints do not scale in any way to anything in this thread.
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I agree with Hasty here the gold saints are utterly irrelevant to the thread at hand. A group of us is planning a massive revision for the speed Saint Seiya page. It also wouldn’t be bad to separate anime and manga versions.
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the problem is that I'm not just mentioning the golden ones, but the divine armor ones, I think you should also downgrade the golden ones too, they don't have that whole tier
But that's for another topic, but how do you disprove that Shura was speedblitzing with above light speed in a supposed infinite attack?
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the anime could just be deleted in all honesty
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But that’s the thing. He was absolutely moving faster than light. Infinitely faster. Also, again, the BR translation is using a less common interpretation of unending. It’s far more likely the meaning is infinite.
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the divine armour ones have consistent casual MFTL featsat the very least without any of this kind of scaling.
and last I checked, infinite speed is above light speed. I'm not sure why you're so intent on taking the speech so literal when compared to the feat (or the interpretation of the feat being presented in the thread). If a character says "I'm going to surpass the speed of light" then ran an infinite distance, you wouldn't sit there and say "well he's clearly just FTL because that's the name of a VBW tier", which is essentially what you're doing.
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Don’t say that the anime is extremely spicy it legitimately gives us so much
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I also hate it when people say it's hyperbole without elaborating. lol
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Common Gogeta win
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feel free to make anime profiles, I won't stop you
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Surpassing SoL is par for the course for gods. Disregarding this entire thread, there's an MFTL feat for gods in every spin off.
Edit: It was addressed above, my bad.
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in spin-off the gods are different, not to be confused with canon verse, is by another author.
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make a canon crt if you want to change the canon.
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I would love to do it, thanks for the idea.
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just wanna say i have a blog for canoncity in creation to override the current old one.
edit: it will end in separatations
Hasty12345
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should have been obvious but yw
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whut?
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I recommend that you leave a CRT of such importance to the verse, such as a split Canon, in the hands of someone with real knowledge in SS.
Since all your posts on that CRT have shown that you either only care about the downgrade or don't have enough knowledge.
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nothing
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Thanks, but I don't like other people's opinions.
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I already showed you above, my friend.
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that's right, "muh hyperbole"
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Could you quote me it?
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lol, I think these comments are off topic, we should get back to the main topic.
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Cursed be the inventor of that word
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It might just be because the thread is kinda long, so I missed it
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I see. so is your argument that Shura claimed he needed to go ftl in order to do the feat, and so it’s a ftl feat?
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Exactly, nothing infinite there
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Like, if I’m saying that a horse moved faster then a human, and someone else specifies how much faster, the second guy isn’t wrong.
also, I’m sorry if I didn’t make this clearer, I was asking if you had a rebuttal for my argument that infinite cosmos would lead to infinite stats.
also, I’m sorry if I didn’t make this clearer, I was asking if you had a rebuttal for my argument that infinite cosmos would lead to infinite stats.
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Obvious issue with this is that infinite speed is by definition FTL. But a character stating he will go FTL doesn't mean he's going FTL in the way the wiki treats the term.
I also find the hyperbole argument lacking, it was stated by two different characters that his attacks are infinite and he does it via spatial hax.
Finally, the idea that that Shura fought it off resorting only to a single attack does hold some merit, going by visuals alone. But it conflicts with his statement earlier that he would need to go faster than light to intercept the fists, as if a single attack was all that was needed, he wouldn't have to resort to amping his speed.
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here about the attacks is referring to being a lot to dodge, read all the context, not made of infinite speed, the character had to go from the speed of light to overcome the speed of light, two quotes claims the same thing.
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... Yes infinite attacks are alot of attacks to dodge.
Ok so to illustrate my point. Say you have a manga where a character can spam beam attacks. They have been described as numerous on a number of occasions and there's a one off statement about them being infinite in number. Now, taken in isolation, you could buy that the character is using infinite attacks. But, when there's no other infinite anything present in the manga, it would be hard to argue that the statement was legitimate and not hyperbole or at least an outlier.
But Brontes doesn't spam attacks physically, he multiplies what he does via spatial hax. It's hard to argue hyperbole because he's not manually firing them off, he's multiplying them via hax.
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