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Immeasurable speed sailor moon ?
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I personally have no issues with Sailor Moon's universe being infinite in size; it pays tribute to some older theories, then saying "More modern facts conflict with it" isn't really the best argument. Because there do exist plenty of verses that actually do take place on a flat earth; with some of them also taking place on what's basically a High 3-A sized flat earth via being based on ancient Greek, Norse, and/or Tao mythologies. And while having an edge does raise skepticism about being infinite, it doesn't really disprove it since it just means either their exists numbers greater than countable infinity and/or reaching beyond infinite space requires an extra spatial dimension.
Though, I don't really need to repeat myself regarding the justifications for certain speed feats being qualified.
Though, I don't really need to repeat myself regarding the justifications for certain speed feats being qualified.
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Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense. Thank you for the evaluation. Is it fine if the characters that scale get infinite speed then?
Also, can somebody try to figure out which characters that should scale to infinite speed and which that should get lower speed levels?
Also, can somebody try to figure out which characters that should scale to infinite speed and which that should get lower speed levels?
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This is what dragon said about infinite speed, right?
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Hmm. Can you clarify your current view please, @DarkDragonMedeus ?
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Yeah, I already said it sounds more like they use dimensional travel/time travel to perform said feat rather than just a simple travel from point A to point B. There was a statement about reaching a place outside the universe implying the travel greater than infinite distance, but again; dimensional travel. And attacking backwards in time and blocking an attack from the future sounds like time travel for the former and precognition for the latter.
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What shall we apply then?
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Sorry my responses are scattered I'll gather them into one.
The shockwaves were traveling through time as though it was space. How can that be described as just time travel?
Tellu doesn’t have precognition.
What makes it sound like that?
Also the place cannot be reached through dimensional travel, the characters all have dimensional travel and cannot reach this place and need plutos key.
Time travel is a person going from year 2000 to the year 1980.
The shockwaves were traveling through time as though it was space. How can that be described as just time travel?
It just sounds like coming up with abilities to speculate what could have happen rather than just going by what’s on the pages.
Tellu doesn’t have precognition.
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..........anything left to say, medeus?
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Okay. Thank you for the clarifications.
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So we are using the calcs for MFTL+ feats right?
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This is so unbelievable and just plain wrong. I have never seen such twisted logic.
Sailor Moon doesn’t have infinite attack speed but she can attack people who are infinite distance away.
Sailor Moon doesn’t have immeasurable attack speed, but she can attack people anywhere and anywhen from anywhere and anywhen.
Make it make sense.
Sailor Moon doesn’t have infinite attack speed but she can attack people who are infinite distance away.
Sailor Moon doesn’t have immeasurable attack speed, but she can attack people anywhere and anywhen from anywhere and anywhen.
Make it make sense.
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BTW this is what AKM sama said about infinite universe having an edge or end.
Anyway, as i said before, here are some feats that can be used. Even if it is no longer infinite, they are still one of the fastest MFTL+ speeds of the wikia. Could you please ask admins to evaluate this?
Sailor moon speed calc
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Sailor Galaxia flies to another galaxy (Sailor Moon speed calc)
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Sailor Moon Speed Calc
About time I've done this calc, but the tremendous numbers have been dissuading me. I've often heard people say that Sailors are hundreds to thousands of times FTL. Their true speed is actually much faster than this. Let's take a look: In...
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Here is what he said, if anybody wonders:
"Having an end contradicts the notion of infinity, since anything infinite is supposed to be without any end. Things could get more complicated if more information is involved. Although, infinite speed is something that should be looked at with even more scrutiny considering the context of the story, etc."
@Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr._Bambu @Therefir @DMUA @Wokistan @ArmorchompyAnyway, as i said before, here are some feats that can be used. Even if it is no longer infinite, they are still one of the fastest MFTL+ speeds of the wikia. Could you please ask admins to evaluate this?
Sailor moon speed calc
Sailor Galaxia flies to another galaxy (Sailor Moon speed calc)
Sailor Moon Speed Calc
About time I've done this calc, but the tremendous numbers have been dissuading me. I've often heard people say that Sailors are hundreds to thousands of times FTL. Their true speed is actually much faster than this. Let's take a look: In...
Would any of you be willing to evaluate these calculations and then tell us here, please? It is quite important.
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Hmm. I just noticed that the last calculation, from Fanverse, needs to be placed in a blog in our wiki. Would you be willing to handle that, @Ultra_instinct_issei ?
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Ant, i once got 5/100 in a mathematics test (I am serious). Seriously, don't bring me anywhere near maths.
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Wouldn't that be plagiarism tho?
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Not if you give credit to the original calculator and link to the page that they placed it in.
This is also required by our rules in such situations.
The key issue here is that our calc group members cannot evaluate it otherwise.
This is also required by our rules in such situations.
The key issue here is that our calc group members cannot evaluate it otherwise.
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That account is now more used by my brother, and i personally barely use it. I think i prefer to keep ultra instinct issei if it does not break the rules here.
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So I should expect a downgrade for the characters of Helios and Necrozma too then?
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Make it ? Although if you want to start a Helios / Necrozma downgrade thread be sure to explain the reason clearly and not just give "Sailor moon downgraded so they must be downgraded too"
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Yes, he can. I gave it to him cause i almost don't use the fandom account at all.
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This is pure bs. And yall know it. This is why every knowledgeable member of Sailor Moon left this community.
Sailor Moon is the only verse that will have legitimate feats waved away and ignored.
and every single time, someone comes into this threads and gives their objections, I give my arguments and they never come back to address my criticisms of their arguments.
Not to mention the complete ignoring of all the users who agreed with infinite speed and immeasurable speed, (and the ones who agree with the infinite speed but not the immeasurable rating)
Not to mention you are still bringing up the “edge of the universe” argument when I already have multiple times explained that the area called the “edge of the spacetime” is not inside the universe.
I want this to become a staff discussion.
Sailor Moon is the only verse that will have legitimate feats waved away and ignored.
and every single time, someone comes into this threads and gives their objections, I give my arguments and they never come back to address my criticisms of their arguments.
Not to mention the complete ignoring of all the users who agreed with infinite speed and immeasurable speed, (and the ones who agree with the infinite speed but not the immeasurable rating)
Not to mention you are still bringing up the “edge of the universe” argument when I already have multiple times explained that the area called the “edge of the spacetime” is not inside the universe.
I want this to become a staff discussion.
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Seriously, while i somewhat hate whataboutism, if Immeasurable speed or Infinite speed is that easy, Dragon Ball Heroes will have them already. Like i said before:
1. Immeasurable is a no, unless Sailor Moon display the ability to be faster than instant, or her speed beyond dimensional axis of time, unrestrain by the linear time, treat time axis as distance, allow her to attack at every point across time. Send a shockwave to the past is just range feat, if it is immeasurable speed, every Low 2-C characters will gain Immeasurable speed due to the nature of their power which destroy uncountable infinite amount of 3d objects across time axis, which mean future, present and past got destroyed
2. Infinite speed, problem is, the "edge of space-time" whatever it is is a really vague word, it could be a literal edge of universe, or just a name for wiseman domain however this is not a big point due to infinite universe still can have a dimensional wall because of fiction. The light feat which cover the universe, like i said before if you have actual evidences to support that Sailor Moon somehow scale to that light feat, automatically scale her to the "light" because it is her power seem unconvinced or literally everyone with High 3-A or 2-A power can have infinite speed. Now come to Black Lady scan, we saw he flying, yes no denying that. however the feat is vague, it take 1 page, and no direct statement on how she travel to wiseman place, so leaving up to all kind of interpretations, either it is dimensional travel or physical flying, etc..
Well that all from me, honestly i'm fine with a possibly infinite speed, a solid rating is kinda stretch given all the evidences. However this is just my comment, everything is, again up to the staffs................................
1. Immeasurable is a no, unless Sailor Moon display the ability to be faster than instant, or her speed beyond dimensional axis of time, unrestrain by the linear time, treat time axis as distance, allow her to attack at every point across time. Send a shockwave to the past is just range feat, if it is immeasurable speed, every Low 2-C characters will gain Immeasurable speed due to the nature of their power which destroy uncountable infinite amount of 3d objects across time axis, which mean future, present and past got destroyed
2. Infinite speed, problem is, the "edge of space-time" whatever it is is a really vague word, it could be a literal edge of universe, or just a name for wiseman domain however this is not a big point due to infinite universe still can have a dimensional wall because of fiction. The light feat which cover the universe, like i said before if you have actual evidences to support that Sailor Moon somehow scale to that light feat, automatically scale her to the "light" because it is her power seem unconvinced or literally everyone with High 3-A or 2-A power can have infinite speed. Now come to Black Lady scan, we saw he flying, yes no denying that. however the feat is vague, it take 1 page, and no direct statement on how she travel to wiseman place, so leaving up to all kind of interpretations, either it is dimensional travel or physical flying, etc..
Well that all from me, honestly i'm fine with a possibly infinite speed, a solid rating is kinda stretch given all the evidences. However this is just my comment, everything is, again up to the staffs................................
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Didn't like every CRT aimed at upgrading sailor moon got approved by the staff?
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DBH is way more of immeasurable/infinite then sailor moon . Literal multiversal space time transcendence, being beyond multiverse space time, being able to affect and warp all of time with your power, attacks encompassing and destroying an 2-A multiverse, casually moving across the crack of time which contains said infinite multiverse, becoming a literal multiverse and absorbing timelines, warping MULTIPLE timelines from outside reality, casually moving across time, blah blah blah. They did all that ridiculous shit and they STILL are not infinite/immeasurable .Seriously, while i somewhat hate whataboutism, if Immeasurable speed or Infinite speed is that easy, Dragon Ball Heroes will have them already. Like i said before:
1. Immeasurable is a no, unless Sailor Moon display the ability to be faster than instant, or her speed beyond dimensional axis of time, unrestrain by the linear time, treat time axis as distance, allow her to attack at every point across time. Send a shockwave to the past is just range feat, if it is immeasurable speed, every Low 2-C characters will gain Immeasurable speed due to the nature of their power which destroy uncountable infinite amount of 3d objects across time axis, which mean future, present and past got destroyed
2. Infinite speed, problem is, the "edge of space-time" whatever it is is a really vague word, it could be a literal edge of universe, or just a name for wiseman domain however this is not a big point due to infinite universe still can have a dimensional wall because of fiction. The light feat which cover the universe, like i said before if you have actual evidences to support that Sailor Moon somehow scale to that light feat, automatically scale her to the "light" because it is her power seem unconvinced or literally everyone with High 3-A or 2-A power can have infinite speed. Now come to Black Lady scan, we saw he flying, yes no denying that. however the feat is vague, it take 1 page, and no direct statement on how she travel to wiseman place, so leaving up to all kind of interpretations, either it is dimensional travel or physical flying, etc..
Well that all from me, honestly i'm fine with a possibly infinite speed, a solid rating is kinda stretch given all the evidences. However this is just my comment, everything is, again up to the staffs................................
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Seriously WTF happen to you???
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I have literally posted a scans saying all this. I can post it again later.
How can Sailor Moon not scale to her own feat?
and we know exactly where the edge if spacetime is, i have already posted the scan.
yeah. It gets accepted and then someone comes along and down grades the verse and then we have to start all over again. Its why everyone leaves. Its a waste of time and why the profiles are so messed up. Who wants to take time to fix and upgrade and then have it all changed over flimsy arguments.
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This is what im talking about. What character in the history of vsbattle has to prove they can scale to their own feat.
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What are the things that got downgraded exactly? The star seeds being concepts?
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By all mean, idk about other vs platform, but here, AP scale to AP only, Speed scale to Speed only, Range scale to Range only. Unless you have extreme evidences that your speed scale to range
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im so sick of this range argument. Its not clever:
Range is distance. Distance over time is speed.
The light feat is not a destruction feat, so we can use it for speed.
Range is distance. Distance over time is speed.
The light feat is not a destruction feat, so we can use it for speed.
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Well, don't blame me, we have a standard and i'm not responsible for it..............................
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We have this standard cause of inconsistencies in fiction right?Well, don't blame me, we have a standard and i'm not responsible for it..............................
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