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And how is that any different from sailor moon?
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Immeasurable speed sailor moon ?
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well, if you have feats or evidences to prove that sailor moon scale to her light.
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The whole series.
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Nothing. Until the wiki makes an official stance on using light feats as speed. Considering there are people arguing the same thing for dragonball super, despite being against it here. We shouldn’t have double standards.
like Black lady flying to a space outside the universe isn’t good enough for a speed rating but Vados flying between two universes is.
I’m just saying, it seems like we are holding certain verses to higher standards than others.
like Black lady flying to a space outside the universe isn’t good enough for a speed rating but Vados flying between two universes is.
I’m just saying, it seems like we are holding certain verses to higher standards than others.
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In Dragon Ball it seems like characters may have actually physically flown an infinite distance, whereas Medeus said that Sailor Moon is a case of unrelated time-space manipulation, if I have understood things properly.
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Bringing other verses doesn't help your case.
And just to clarify: DB character have shown the ability to dodge, outpace and be faster than thier own ki blasts, or the explosions of ki blasts. Said ki blasts and explosions can cross a universal distance.
Does sailor moon have feats like that?
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it’s speculation to be very honest. Black Lady on page is only shown flying from point A to point B. There is no mention of her using spacetime manipulation to get there.
The only mentione of spacetime manipulation in those pages is that wiseman used the black crystal to create his domain.
Yes. This has been said many times already.
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@DarkDragonMedeus @ByAsura @Qawsedf234 @Jasonsith @QuasiYuri @Ultra_instinct_issei
So should we downgrade the Sailor Moon character speeds from Immeasurable to Infinite or Immeasurable to Massively FTL+ based on the above discussion?
So should we downgrade the Sailor Moon character speeds from Immeasurable to Infinite or Immeasurable to Massively FTL+ based on the above discussion?
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I'd personally go with Massively FTL+
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I agree with the immeasurable and infinite speed
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If this is a travel speed argument then the reason it works for Dragon Ball is clearly explained on the hub page
You would need the same level of evidence to scale flight to combat speed if they don't do anything during the feat.
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Both sides are claiming their characters have infintie speed rating through flying infinite distance. How is there a difference?
LOL WHAT? Are you seriously trying to argue that DBS characters can statistics amplify their way to infinite speed? Yall are really doing whatever you want.
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What he mean is, due to ki mechanic, their overal speed scale to their attack speed. Also they have feats to back up, like reacting to explosion, shockwave produce from their own attack
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Yall literally spent several posts on here saying that you don't get speed scaling from universe destructive speed feats(Despite the feat in question not being a universe destruction feat). Why do characters reacting to explosion, and shockwaves of a universal destroying attack suddenly okay for a infinite speed rating?
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How many MFTL+ speed feats do we have on hand? Or I should quickly wrap up one (one that I brought up) during the weekend?
And proof that Sailor Moon universe "how infinite" is that?
Oh someone brought up Necrozma or even possibly Lanturn?
And proof that Sailor Moon universe "how infinite" is that?
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Explain to me how exactly you're going to get MFTL+ speed from an infinite distance?
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Ayo did this become a war zone
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I think it is, but well any thread when it come to these speed rating mostly turn into a warzone
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Well, there are no insults being thrown around at least.
Anyway, can somebody list the MFTL+ and Infinite speed feats, including more indepth specifics, respectively, please?
We need to replace the current Immeasurable speed levels in any case.
Anyway, can somebody list the MFTL+ and Infinite speed feats, including more indepth specifics, respectively, please?
We need to replace the current Immeasurable speed levels in any case.
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So far, this is the only legit infinite speed that we have if we don't equate infinite range with infinite speed and accept that sailor moon universe is already infinite and will not become infinite by lambda power. An infinite attack speed, that is. As for MFTL+ ones, the series is full with those, like the eternal senshi and her allies reaching the galaxy's center in a very small time x , etc.
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There are lots of them that can be used.
Sailor Galaxia flies to another galaxy (Sailor Moon speed calc)
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Sailor Moon Speed Calc
About time I've done this calc, but the tremendous numbers have been dissuading me. I've often heard people say that Sailors are hundreds to thousands of times FTL. Their true speed is actually much faster than this. Let's take a look: In...
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So the new speed would be Massively FTL +, infinite attack speed.
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Dragon Ball has explicit evidence of saying that flight speed = all speed.
It's why its not classified as travel speed. Salior Moon would need the same level of evidence.
Also like, unless I'm missing something DBS doesn't have infinite speed.
No, I'm just explaining why DB characters scale to their flight speed. Also as I said before, no one in DBS is rated at infinite speed.
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Sailor moon already has feets of infinite speed attack, and reactions.
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You mean the light burst?
If so, then how would you word them scaling to it.
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characters can react to, block, and counter attacks
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@Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @DarkDragonMedeusThere are lots of them that can be used.
Sailor Galaxia flies to another galaxy (Sailor Moon speed calc)
Sailor Moon Speed Calc
About time I've done this calc, but the tremendous numbers have been dissuading me. I've often heard people say that Sailors are hundreds to thousands of times FTL. Their true speed is actually much faster than this. Let's take a look: In...
So the new speed would be Massively FTL +, infinite attack speed.
What do you think about this?
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Do you have any evidence of them blocking, countering, or dodging attacks that are proven to be infinitely fast?
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Seems good, at least from what I remember.
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That seems good
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Tellu blocked and absorbed Sailor Moon’s attack. Tellu was about to kill Chibi-us and sailor moon was helpless until Sailor Pluto stepped in and killed Tellu.
Sailor Pluto was also able to warn Sailor Moon of Black Lady’s attack before it hit Sailor Moon from the future.
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Thank you for the evaluation.
Can you show the scans for this please? Also was this after the infinite attack speed occasion, and are these attacks confirmed to scale from it?
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Nope. Pretty sure they don't. At least i don't remember those attacks crossing the infinite universe unlike the light release.
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I think the feat he shows are after. BTW do we assume because one attack that crossed an infinite distance all attacks scale to it?
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Here is Sailor Moon using her attack on Tellu and Tellu blocking it and absorbing it. This happened in the next arc after the infinite attack speed occasion. All sailor moon's attacks scale to the event because they are all from the silver crystal which powers all her attacks, powers, and is her life source.
Also, I forgot to mention that in this arc, Sailor Moon also asked Neo Queen Serenity (her future self) to send power across time to her:
Tellu is essentially blocking an attack from the future.
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