What kind of mind bending logic did you just employ on my words? The Black Beast doesn't suddenly move at Immeasurable speed outside the boundary cause he absorbed someone who can move in the boudnary.
This is what I would take as Immeasurable speed when in the normal universe. At least for reaction speed or something.
Afaik transcending time isn't the same as having multiple temporal dimensions. Which is what that statement is about.
It does cause you already agreed on gatekeeping the boundary as granting immeasurable speed as feat period backpedaling now is only going to negate your point on say he's not moving at immeasurable speeds.
Observers not needing to use the boundary just means they're already beings that are transcendent of time, which saying reaction speed anymore is redundant since reaction requires the T in the speed equation to measure it and immeasurable just fills in all the gaps in segments as a constant since immeasurable is literally immeasurable so dividing it into different speeds is equivalent of dividing infinity which is just as impossible doing that with zero, which you can't prove they're reaction speed infinitely drops by an uncountable amount of when going back to ftl otherwise their reaction speed won't be a finite number anymore in the decrease it leaving out the boundary would reach imaginary numbers that don't exist thus Qawsedf234's is now an illogically not mathematically possible.
Multiple temporal dimensions is a temporal dimension of more than one. 1 to 2. That statement has no mathematical logic behind it.
All your points also dodge around temporal dimensions which you never made a counter point on transcendence of time and space so they're almost irrelevant to this topic.and also my downgrade point here doesn't accept if boundary gives you immeasurable speed.
I feel you wrote a really long paragraph saying we don't have a rating for something we already accept as existing. Like its weird sure, but it is something that can be accepted.
Again, the statement was about transcending time, not having multiple temporal dimensions. Those are different things, at least here.
Why do we inherently have to accept your illogical method that leads to not mentioned gaps of infinity like I'm bringing up here. I don't care if you have the dovahkiin have a literal infinite reaction gap in his speed due to your methods just allowing this.
This still doesn't defeat the point on the black beasts speed.
They are the same thing I explained this with mathematics before as proof of them being the same. Multiple temporal dimensions being any number above 1. Where transcending time surpasses the first temporal dimension which time is the temporal dimension of spacetime and surpassing it makes the one into a two 1+1=2 on a temporal scale making transcending it into multiple temporal dimensions. 1+1=2 is a axiomatic universally understood truth of mathematics meaning defying this would be denying the tiering system's systematic logic of what understood.
You don't have to. I also wasn't suggestion such a rating originally.
I wasn't saying that it couldn't be Immeasurable, just that it would at least apply to reactions if nothing else.
Transcending time isn't the same as having multiple temporal dimensions. Its why the other mod said the thing they said.
So you admit to just appealing to the authority of the mods saying this when the mods aren't explaining why it can't be the same thing, cause you haven't shown me proof of why are these mods saying this yet there's a very very clear unspoken divide between those who accept transcendence and those rejecting it with no real reasoning besides just putting a authortatary foot down saying it's not the same on a whim.
I feel like you're reading someone's else comments here. I wasn't relying on an appeal to authority, I was explaining why that mod said the thing they said. Transcending time isn't the same has having multiple temporal dimensions. The former is being greater than a concept on some scale while the other is having/being composed of different axis that dictate the flow time.
What your describing is irrelevant speed in this, which isn't what we're talking about at all and transcend isn't inherently always on a conceptual field.
Multiple Temporal dimensions are just the higher axis since multiple in the mathematical sense means higher numerically. And transcend/transcendence means to surpass or exceed pass which logically at bare minimum makes this immeasurable speed since this is on a higher axis beyond the first.
so basically you say all higher dimension character will get immeasurable speed?
No, cause I know where your going with this.
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That doesn't make sense whatsoever lol. So they are just holding back their immeasurable speed and pretend to be finite speed fodders?
An example would be
Giving an absurd example for an absurd proposal doesn't make it any less absurd
This feat doesn't have anything to do with traveling via immeasurable speed because observing every single point in time seems to be just cosmic awareness
Its no observation, its Observation.
Already read that blog for long time ago, still that feat is not even close to a supporting evidence of immeasurable speed
Well, it's not my fault that you can't understand such a simple thing
This example doesn't work mostly due to after you go from ftl to immeasurable going back is almost absurd there would be a infinite gap in time for reaction going from immeasurable to finite.
Yeah, i agree, a very wild thread.
I did. Doesn't change my view.
You can use speed equalized rules to be balanced sure
If Observation is some context sensitive thing, then no. All of Glassman's scans still rely on people physically entering the boundary to get Immeasurable speed. Even if people are directly connected to it, I haven't seen anything that implies they still don't need to enter the Boundary to become Immeasurable.
