Immeasurable speed question

[Astral_Trinity439]

So... We're all familiar with how most characters get immeasurable speed; via movement in time, to the past or future.

And well, that's fine and all, but that's the "more detailed version" of this rating. The basic/simplified rating is:

Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)

And this got me thinking, I'm sure we have a lot of ways to prevent NFL and things like 'moving in timeless Voids/transcending time isn't immeasurable speed by default', but what if someone's literally stayed to do just the bolded part of the definition, except for the absense of the word "linear". Or, what if someone's said to be able to "move in a state unboud from the flow of time"?

Jot cuz of some ability but becuase of their state of being.

Do we treat it as, like, immeasurable speed, or just some sort of resistance or something else?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Is it just stated to be that or do they attribute stuff they can do to it?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Is it just stated to be that or do they attribute stuff they can do to it?

It allows them to keep up with things that have infinite speed (refer to the infinite travel speed rating), at least, and "perceive the passage of time" in stopped time (???)

By weaving the law of stillness into the energy released, one can act in a state unbound by the flow of time.

Of course, this is only possible with Ciel’s support. After all, without her, I wouldn’t even be able to perceive the passage of time.

Note: Stopped Time isn't actual Stopped Time, as contradictory to the name as that is, but more like accelerating oneself until Time literally stops from your mov

《Master, the ability to control time has been unlocked.》

Led by that voice, I activated the ability.
I didn’t quite understand what it was, but something told me that if I used it, I could turn the situation around.

The moment I activated the ability, the world came to a stop.

Because my perception had been enhanced by a factor of one million, I understood that the world had ceased all movement—as if time itself had stopped.

Not only my perception, but my body too, could now move at speeds one million times faster.
In other words, I was able to dominate the flow of time, accelerating only myself.

This was an ability fundamentally different from super-acceleration—it was a supernatural power.
No physical backlash or side effects resulted from using this ability.

So, uhh, perceiving the flow of time of a single instant??
Idek how that works lol

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

It allows them to keep up with things that have infinite speed (refer to the infinite travel speed rating), at least, and "perceive the passage of time" in stopped time (???)


Note: Stopped Time isn't actual Stopped Time, as contradictory to the name as that is, but more like accelerating oneself until Time literally stops from your mov


So, uhh, perceiving the flow of time of a single instant??
Idek how that works lol

Seems like it's a way to describe time acceleration for 2nd part. Doesn't need infinite or immeasurable speed (if you're a already really fast guy raising your speed by a factor of one million is gonna make time seem like as if it stopped). It's probably an anti-feat for infinite speed if it can be used against people who have infinite. 1st one is just weird ngl.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Seems like it's a way to describe time acceleration for 2nd part. Doesn't need infinite or immeasurable speed (if you're a already really fast guy raising your speed by a factor of one million is gonna make time seem like as if it stopped). It's probably an anti-feat for infinite speed if it can be used against people who have infinite. 1st one is just weird ngl.

It's just a relativity mechanic

The multiplier is prolly random, since there is just too much against it not being a literal time stop (0 time passing) than not so. I made a thread about the multiplier thing before and it seems as long as the actual proof is sufficient enough, the multipleirs are treated as outliers and results matter more