Typing too fast and not looking to keyboard does this.
Yeah this reasoning needs be to changedI didnt even know bro got immesurable speed
Immeasurable (Should be as fast as before. Can easily cross thousands of light-years in seconds.[13])
This one is MFTL+ justification
I’ve got an idea for new supportive justification on his Weirdmageddon key
What is it?
Yeah. Bill groups that in with the rest of the rest of their abilities that are all time-related. Idk why this is that relevant since we know how they time travel to begin with, with devices that only time travel. The time police don't have an overall Time Manipulation ability they possess. I still don't see how them being able to time travel and stop Bill before then means Bill is immeasurable, since Bill with time travel abilities would already be able to counteract that.
The counterarguments are just... like the scans don't really directly mean Bill is immeasurable.
I hope that you learn that within the GF verse's context "Time Manipulation" is an umbrella term that also includes Time Travel. Just like Hit's Time Skip includes both Time Stop and Time Travel, Heaven Dio's Reality Overwrite includes also a fuckload of hax like EE, Mind Hax, Power Null, etc, then this applies to also Gravity Falls' Time Hax.
Bill has reached Blending while the latter was in the future and Bill was in the present. He needed his body to approach the rift without any suspicion.
that is not wh- like come on guys? thats not the reason scan is fucking there use your motor skills for like a second
When is this ever stated as such? The scan that was given just gives a bunch of powers and stuff yatta yatta things I've said before.
Learn to read between lines. The fact that Bill associates Time Travel with other forms of time hax is a proof in itself, it doesn't have to be spoonfed.
It's not? It's a set of abilities that he lists off that makes the time police to him a threat to some extent at least. From what I'm seeing there's not exactly a correlation between the powers he says makes the time police a threat, and him not having control over time before he got a physical form (If you have a gun, you'd still see other people with a gun as a threat).
The whole point is that “control over Time” which Bill is talking about is Time Baby’s abilities, one of them is Time Travel. If I say “damn I don’t have a weapon” and it is very explicitly shown that gun is one of the weapons I’m talking about, then I logically don’t have a gun. Same here: Bill very explicitly did not have Time abilities prior to Weirdmageddon, which include Time Travel.
This is just Time Baby being dumb. I honestly have no clue what he thought, given that he was slammed before Weirdmageddon, what he can even do when Bill has it? Bill in Weirdmageddon is far stronger than Time Baby, both narratively and via feats (as you yourself noted, Bill one-shoted Time Baby)
Traveling beyond linear time without having any special ability to do so would clearly indicate that it was done via movement.
Yup exactly
I’d guess Time Giants were powerful like Physical Cipher or smth
Doubt it + even if it’s true, Time Baby still got annihilated by pre-Weirdmageddon Bill, so going against his physical form and Henchmaniacs basically all alone is still just stupid from his side, lol.
Don't talk to my goat like that, he tried to save the world
He only lost because of an Hencemaniac attacking him off-guard, otherwise him and Bill were evenly matched.
Don’t forget that time he did have his army, during Weirdmageddon it was just a projection iirc. And even if we go your way, Physical Form >>>>>>> pre-Weirdmageddon Bill = Time Baby.
It was his duty, he didn't even know Bill became that strong.
At least have some kind of plan? Like getting Bill off-guard or trapping him into something? Or find other ways to defeat him, such as getting the Prophecy fulfilled?
You're winning me over. Just to reiterate, Bill saying he didn't have time powers comes from Weirdmaggedon when he says he has control over time now right?
Yeah, he said that after killing Time Baby he can manipulate time as well.
He also straight up says "but I wasn't always like this" right after lol
Huh... how so? Because he did say that Bill does qualify lmfao.
Qaws says that "The justification for that character is movement beyond linear time and scaling to someone who views time as a direction they can travel in"
Sure
Can be accomplished with time travel. So not a justification
Since he has time travel powers, you'd need to prove it was speed doing this and not that ability
Time Baby perceiving time as a physical distance, assumkng he can move throught like one, is a clear cut immeasurable feat.
This statement contextualizes the first part. Since he has no control over Time and still managed to cross time, the only option left would be either doing it through movement or with the assistance of an object/place that would give him this ability. Assuming there's not latter, it has to be the former which makes him Immeasurable.
The former is only immeasurable through scaling while the latter is just MFTL+
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Support stuff. Why should we just discard it?
