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"I'm Immortal""No U". Salem vs Sun-Il
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What does Shin start with?
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Stabbing from a distance by making a portal for his sword.
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Can they actually kill each other?
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Probably not. Salem could probably get a knockout with ice, and Sun-Il might try to just BFR her, since the idea of a monster not having the ability to escape an ID is something he actually believes.
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Honestly, I find Salem knocking out Sun-ll with ice to be very unlikely. Truth Wagon couldn't knock him out, and that guy has blades that cut at a cellular level. Unless you mean that she'll freeze him.
Sun-ll could win, since he can likely just outlast her. But other than that, they can't get past the other's regen.
Sun-ll could win, since he can likely just outlast her. But other than that, they can't get past the other's regen.
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I meant that, yeah. She can freeze him, he can (and for once, would eventually) BFR her.
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Cant Salem just TK crush him to incap?
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Depends on their lifting strength.
But no, he has Low-Godly regen. He takes like, what, maybe 30 seconds to regen.
But no, he has Low-Godly regen. He takes like, what, maybe 30 seconds to regen.
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Correction. It takes maybe 30 seconds to regen from death. From any other wound like losing an eye, an arm, a leg, it's pretty brief before he's fully restored.
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Sun-Il's regen barely takes a few seconds.
But why does Salem get class G by upscaling from Class K luke that? By that logic Sun-Il would be far higher as well.
Now that I think about it, he still should scale about 300 meter tall golems, so... Might need to change that later.
But why does Salem get class G by upscaling from Class K luke that? By that logic Sun-Il would be far higher as well.
Now that I think about it, he still should scale about 300 meter tall golems, so... Might need to change that later.
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Salem = Prime Ozpin >4x> Maidens >>>>>>>>> Pro Huntsmen level characters >>> Huntsmen in Training who can lift 340994 kg
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When did it take that much? When he got his powers he was being actively ripped apart, so it was more of a "getting hurt faster than you heal" deal.Litentric Teon said:
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I was being generous with my times. Lowballing majorly.
Also, lifting strength doesn't scale to AP.
And yeah, Sun-ll probably has superior lifting strength to that golem. So he probably should be higher.
Either way, TK crush is not viable enough to win con if he just outlasts or eventually just leaves her in the ID barrier.
Also, lifting strength doesn't scale to AP.
And yeah, Sun-ll probably has superior lifting strength to that golem. So he probably should be higher.
Either way, TK crush is not viable enough to win con if he just outlasts or eventually just leaves her in the ID barrier.
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Likely limitless stamina kinda counters outlasting.
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Salem's AP is Low 7-B, Shin is only Low 7-B with a weapon that doesnt scale to his durability
Limitless stamina counters outlasting
Limitless stamina counters outlasting
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*****, I tought that was changed...
Shin is High 7-C in all keys, that should've been updated (by me, so shame on me), he scales above 500 kilotons, a little bit more, and a lot more with stat amps.
As for the golem, even ignoring that it's made out of metal, it still gets 129879000 kilograms, which is to be expected by mountain dwarfing giants.
Shin is High 7-C in all keys, that should've been updated (by me, so shame on me), he scales above 500 kilotons, a little bit more, and a lot more with stat amps.
As for the golem, even ignoring that it's made out of metal, it still gets 129879000 kilograms, which is to be expected by mountain dwarfing giants.
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When I asked, the eventual answer was a yes, but it wasn't unanonimous. Both are immortal tough, so I doubt that's an option regardless.Wokistan said:
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Oh. So in that case I guess it's incon since neither can kill the other?
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Salem can incap him with TK
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How so?
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By suspending him in the air and crushing him into a ball
https://roosterteeth.com/episode/rwby-volume-6-3
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https://roosterteeth.com/episode/rwby-volume-6-3
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I think his lifting strength is getting updated.
Also, crushing him into a ball? He can regen from that. And teleport himself or his blade.
Also, crushing him into a ball? He can regen from that. And teleport himself or his blade.
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To what?
He would be constantly held in a ball, he can regen but he'd just regen into the shape of a ball. He can teleport but that wont stop Salem from just TKing him again.
He would be constantly held in a ball, he can regen but he'd just regen into the shape of a ball. He can teleport but that wont stop Salem from just TKing him again.
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Class G. 54x baseline.
I mean, being held in a ball would likely kill him. And he'd regen. Get crushed, regen. I mean, he's not dead, so I don't think that really counts as winning. Like, it's still a stalemate in that case.
And if he teleports his sword in her face I highly doubt she'll be able to maintain her telekinesis so simply.
I mean, being held in a ball would likely kill him. And he'd regen. Get crushed, regen. I mean, he's not dead, so I don't think that really counts as winning. Like, it's still a stalemate in that case.
And if he teleports his sword in her face I highly doubt she'll be able to maintain her telekinesis so simply.
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Incapacitation is a win condition as per Standard Battle Assumptions
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But is this method of incap really viable here?
Guess we'll wait for the lifting strength update.
However, that also doesn't address a blade coming to spear her in her face from point blank range. She's not going to be able to maintain her telekinesis so simply. And because he regens so quick, each time he feels even the hint of TK upon him, he'll likely just teleport the sword right in front of her face, and seek to close the distance.
Actually, he himself can teleport as well. So such a method of incap is a bit impractical here.
Guess we'll wait for the lifting strength update.
However, that also doesn't address a blade coming to spear her in her face from point blank range. She's not going to be able to maintain her telekinesis so simply. And because he regens so quick, each time he feels even the hint of TK upon him, he'll likely just teleport the sword right in front of her face, and seek to close the distance.
Actually, he himself can teleport as well. So such a method of incap is a bit impractical here.
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