Ikki gets some snail mail

[Firephoenixearl]

Pointing out the only reason Pucci get around it by making himself blind is because he had prep and prior information. Closing your eyes doesnt work, he had to actually remove his eyesight completely making himself completely blind.

Ikki can remove his eyesight via body control (he can even stop perceiving colors which he does as a first move in character which should stop it from working). But the problem is, ikki just gets around the passive. He can't deal with anything after.

 

[Chariot190]

If you become effected, there's no urning back unless weather dies and you arent fully turned yet, both of those conditions must be met. Removing eyesight after being effected would do nothing to stop it once it begins and wouldnt even slow it down, that's why Pucci had to do it right away before becoming effected. Which is what I mean, you need both prior information and a prep along with being able to make yourself blind to get around the passive. Which is hard in a no prep battle.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Actually the problem is Heavy can kill him even if ikki gets past it.

@Oven

Yes but apparently that won't work. Because there is freezing and a lot of other things going on with heavy. You said all these things.

That's just called being versatile, and last I checked that's not grounds for a stomp.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

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>Instant freezing that Ikki has no way to bypass.

>It's just versatility

>Not a stomp

I do not think you know what "versatile" means. That is being versatile sure, but where in the world did you get "being versatile is not a stomp". If someone has 13 million different hax, he's versatile af, doesn't mean he fair wins against composite human.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

In no way did I say the freeze was instant.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

In no way did I say the freeze was instant.

My bad then, the filling up the body with water.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Again, Ikki can't just hit Weather before his body completely fills up with water?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Again, Ikki can't just hit Weather before his body completely fills up with water?

First of all you said it's instant.

Second of all hit him...how? Past:

• Atmospherical freezing

• An omnipresent being that he cannot see

• An omnipresent being that he cannot blitz

• An omnipresent being that he cannot use mind tricks on because he doesn't have a freaking mind

Yeah not happeing. That's heavily nuking every advantage/ability ikki has.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

You act as if everything Heavy Weather does is instant. Yes, he can't see, nor interact with Heavy, but that doesn't stop him from just straight up attacking Weather Report.

Like the water filling thing isn't even an opening move. It's just one of the many things Heavy can do. You can't in good conscience say that Ikki wouldn't win a few iterations of this match if Weather didn't use the proper weather phenomenon to attack Ikki.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Well considering Ikki has to move 4 km, before reaching WR. And Heavy just has to think a bunch of stuff while seeing if Ikki can deal with them. No, Ikki won't really win anything.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

So if I make the starting distance shorter, will you think this is fair?

 

[Chariot190]

idk a handful of the things HW does kinda counts as instant, blood freezing happened super fast, nigh instantly, same with blood boiling. Not instant but not noticeable. Snails passive though. Things like water aint instant or lightning. Or making it rain poison frogs that explode due to terminal velocity poisoning ******* everything. Why's that even a power?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So if I make the starting distance shorter, will you think this is fair?

Then it just becomes inconc. Cus you have now way of knowing whether Heavy will open up with the thing he needs to open up with or Ikki's sword will just reach WR.

 

[Chariot190]

Snails passive, that's always up, Weather cant even turn it off if he wanted. His plan was to kill his target then have hisv friend kill him to put a stop to it (plus he kinda wanted to die but his stand kept going lol no).