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Ichigo vs Meliodas

TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
i think this is a stomp man.
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I appreciate the input, but I need more proof before I request this thread be closed. Also, the soul resistance between Mel and Yammy and Ichigo hasn't been sufficiently argued in my opinion
 
Also, I just looked, and Melascula's magic is 6-C, so for Meliodas to completely neg it would mean that the Reiatsu that Meliodas can't negate would be negligible
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Also, I just looked, and Melascula's magic is 6-C, so for Meliodas to completely neg it would mean that the Reiatsu that Meliodas can't negate would be negligible
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full hollow ichigo is "At least high 6-C"

the high 6-C come from the grand rey cero wich even hollow mask ichigo no selled with no difficulty.

a cero oscuras wich is stronger than a gran rey cero almost one shotted a stronger hollow mask ichigo

full hollow ichigo no selled a lanza del relampago , wich put the cero oscuras to shame, with his bare hands .

if we take the aproach of AP based soul hax ( wich i disagree with but whatever) i don't think meliodas scale at all
 
For the difference between a normal GRC and the LDR, we can use the one Grimm fired at Ichigo during their fight in Los Noches. If that's the case, then the difference in reiatsu is basically the difference in strength between second res Ulquiorra and normal Grimmjow. Do I think Ulquiorra could destroy Grimm casually? Yes. Do I think he could Reiastsu Crush him? No, the gap isn't big enough.

The reason I'm taking "the AP approach" is spiritual pressure is directly linked to AP in Bleach, and Melascula's 6-C key specifically states that she's at that level with her magic, so if Meliodas can completely neg something around a GRC, Ulq just isn't high enough above him to RC
 
Actualy in here it counts as soul hax and is not tied to AP, so the spiritual preasure in not AP base here, as for the resistance mel had problems with mela while yammy who is fodder can cassually take 100+ souls in an instant and people like 10-A that only have a little of R can resist it so ichigo and mel resistance and soul hax capability would be like heaven and earth in difference.
 
in bleach , soul resistance isn't linked to AP( not entirely anyway) as proved many time by tatsuki resisting both yammy and out of crysalis aizen casual reiatsu while being bilions and bilions of times weaker than them .

Same for orihime not having trouble in the presence of stark while he crushed hollows with the same Ap as orihime even with his casual reiatsu .

In the same time , base aizen could crush grimmjow if he wanted as he casualy put him on his knees and feel faint.

cero oscuras will probably be in the 6-B/high 6-B range once recalc'd , the lanza will be probably into the 6-A give or take .

6-C soul resistance isn't going to cut it for Mel .
 
AstralKing7 said:
Didn't Mela take 1000s of souls????
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You mean the spell she used to resurrect those people?

As far as i remember mela was only able to take just 1 soul at a time from a living being and she had to use a spell that took time just to take 1 soul
 
That's soul extraction which is the same thing

The last sentence I said is obviously a feat for the person who has a strong ass soul
 
AstralKing7 said:
That's soul extraction which is the same thing
The last sentence I said is obviously a feat for the person who has a strong ass soul
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Resisting a soul hax from someone that has problems taking just 1 soul vs someone that can manipulate 100s in seconds
 
Dude wtf? The one soul has resistance itself. That's all it means. Did u forget where I said she took 1000s?

U literally just read over that
 
currently , even the best meliodas doesn't scale to the cero oscuras from first release ulquiorra as he doesn't even reach 6-B.

full hollow ichigo fodderized a stronger cero oscuras from segunda etapa ulqui and the lanza wich put the cero oscuras to shame.

however you want to look at it , meliodas soul resistance doesn't scale so he get crushed.
 
I could get this closed for being a stomp, but again, I'd like to get a definitive answer on the Melascula thing, because some people are saying Mel completely negged it, some are saying he had difficulty. Some people say she can only manipulate 1 soul, some say 1 soul with resistance, some say 100s of Souls, and some say 1000s of souls.
 
I will be posting some clarifications over the next few minutes so that everyone can debate with facts
 
Hawk then notices thousands of skeletons laying on the ground, that begin to rise, muttering curses. The skeletons instantly charge and attack the Seven Deadly Sins, only to be extremely weak, even for Hawk who was able to take one down.
 
It's shown that any of the Commandments can suck up a town's worth of souls, and Melascula is their strongest soul manipulator

http://imgur.com/a/88sI8

Commandments can even remove at least a single soul of a person who has a resistance

http://imgur.com/a/VTCMV

Meliodas did, in fact, succumb to the soul manipulation, but he was heavily injured and she had to use a special move

Soul Invitation can be used when simply touching the victim isn't enough to draw out their soul. Meliodas provided considerable resistance but due to her "expertise" at manipulating the dying, the dead, and their souls, Melascula is able to extract his soul

Melascula's soul manipulation has been shown to be potent enough that she can spread it hundreds of miles

http://imgur.com/a/a32zc
 
With that said, without even using DC, Melascula was able to manipulate thousands of souls, should be far superior to those of her comrades that can casually suck up an entire town's worth of souls, and she and spread her soul manipulation for hundreds of miles. Even with that kind of power, Melascula still had to use Soul Invitation, and yet still, it barely worked.
 
Also, if we move passed this "Reiatsu Crush" argument without it being a stomp, just a reminder that Ichigo has 100% control of the form, and that Mel can duplicate with Lostvayne, and give all the copies Assault form, which is higher than High 6-C
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Also, if we move passed this "Reiatsu Crush" argument without it being a stomp, just a reminder that Ichigo has 100% control of the form, and that Mel can duplicate with Lostvayne, and give all the copies Assault form, which is higher than High 6-C
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So he could be low 6-B up to 6-B on Assault form, also his clones would not really do much since they would be weaker than the OG meliodas and ichigo took an attack that was already 6-B from a 1st form ulquiorra then another even stronger from 2nd resurrection AND then as a full hollow he could tank attacks like lanza de el relampago that just puts to shame those cero oscuras. Yea still going for ichigo even if RC is out.
 
Reiatsu Crush= stomp

Due to this, RC votes won't be counted (because if that the win condition, the match would be a stomp)
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Reiatsu Crush= stomp
Due to this, RC votes won't be counted (because if that the win condition, the match would be a stomp)
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thats why i said it was a stomp before

Also if you are taking out RC you should put it in the OP so that people know, but since RC is not permited the match wont get added tho.
 
RC is permitted, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that Ichi has high enough Reiatsu to straight Crush Mel
 
yammy casually sucked up hundreds of souls from karakura town by breathing hard .

tatsuki was affected by it ( she fell to ground and was tired) but resisted the effect/kept her soul.

a few seconds later we see her being more affected by the casual reiatsu emmited from yammy ( she state that she was going to pass out and ulquiorra stated that her soul was about to crumble just from being near yammy)

so in terms of potency , casual reiatsu is stronger than casual soul ripping 100+ souls , at least in bleach .

and if we go AP = more soul hax , then full hollow ichigo is far , far above this casual yammy( hell , even bankai ichigo was above this yammy with how casually he cut off his arm) , especially with hte new cero oscuras calc .

no matter how i look at it , i don't see meliodas resistance scaling to full hollow ichigo reiatsu .

a better match up would be bankai+hollow mask ichigo , this ichigo probably can't soul crush mel.
 
So Yammy would scale in soul hax to the other members of the Commandments, not Melascula

The gap between falling to the ground and passing out isn't insanely large, so it sounds like Yammy's casual RC scales to a normal Commandment

If Yammy's soul hax are only normal Commandment level, he doesn't even scale to casual Melascula, who is casually 10x Yammy's "hard breathing"
 
And just to clarify, the argument is not that Mel wouldn't be affected, I just don't see anything to indicate that Lunar Ichigo can stomp
 
Be it by his AP now or by RC this seems kinda stompy in favor of ichigo not to mention that i read the OP again and mel can see ichigo as they are in london
 
With Mel's counter and amps, the AP is fairly balanced (of course one definitely has the advantage), and I still don't think Ichigo can RC

The match takes place in Andor Londo, in one room, so they'd be less than 100 m from each other with no obstructions
 
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