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Ichigo Kurosaki vs Jubi (10 Tails)

Hst master said:
@Tenshin
He can't activate Blut Vene at will nor is it active passively, Old Man Zangetsu activates it, the Ulquiorra situation is the exact same as Kurama being capable of helping Naruto break out of Genjutsu but just decides not to.

And Kenpachi's Meteor feat got bumped to 24 teratons
That is a very poor excuse right there. Kurama coud not break Naruto out of a genjutsu because they needed to be in terms, not because he didn't want to.
 
What? In order for them to be on terms, Kurama would have to WANT to help Naruto in the 1st place, which he clearly didn't.
 
Hst master said:
What? In order for them to be on terms, Kurama would have to WANT to help Naruto in the 1st place, which he clearly didn't.
In order for a Jinchuuriki to break out of a genjutsu is having full controll of their Jichuuriki. Kurama could not have broken Naruto out of one if he wanted to back then,
 
tailed beasts have to have access to the jinchuuriki's chakra to do that. Some dont like for that because the tailed beasts could potential take over their body but if they are working together than it wont happen.
 
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So we are holding the chainsaw from cutting the tree down because of the definition of a stompy matchup?
 
At 3x the difference, Juubi can't even scratch Ichigo. It's still quite the AP stomp.

I don't see how you guys want to add this when it isn't even a fight...Juubi literally can't do anything here.
 
TheFinalOrder said:
That doesn't change the fact that in this thread, Juubi can't even scratch Ichigo with it's AP.
True, juubi can't really damage ichigo and has no hax for put down the fooder, on the other way, Ichigo One Shot, energy absorbtion ect...

Pretty Stompfish
 
we probably should wait for this fight cause Pain ST may get upgraded to 6B and this logically should scale to the Juubi and may upgrade him. Im not sure tho
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
This isn't a stomp, again a 3x times difference doesn't make it a stomp.
Then I'm curious as to what you consider a match that's not a stomp when you have two characters, one which isn't strong enough to take an attack or scratch the opponent?

However you cut it, it's a lopsided match.
 
Here says in general it takes 5 times AP difference to be an AP stomp.

Here says in general a matchup is a stomp when one character is immediately able to win against another, whether it is via battlefield removal, incapacitation or killing, with the opponent having no chance to retort with their own abilities or statistics.

But will the upgrade upgrade Shinju or create a new form of Shinju? These are what I ask for now.
 
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