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I Regret Absolutely Nothing Except For Everything
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Kek.
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I'm actually working on that
Might get some done tonight now that you reminded me
Might get some done tonight now that you reminded me
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You linked the wrong Damian.
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genuinely can't tell how I did that but fixedCrimsonStarFallen said:
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says Mr. Jack of All TradesDMUA said:
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Why don't you just make Alaya vs the Factory, it lets us argue the same thing without needing to be all round about talking about smurf levels first.
Why don't you just make Alaya vs the Factory, it lets us argue the same thing without needing to be all round about talking about smurf levels first.
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Well The Factory doesn't have a page yet I'm working on it don't rush me, but it's general level of power is stated on the verse page
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Does "general level of power" mean "basic justification for 1-A" because that's all I'm seeing from an honestly quite lazy description.
Unless you mean Law of Identity type "transcends any hierarchy" in which case A) why isn't it tier 0 and B) what feats does it have to make these statements actually mean that.
Unless you mean Law of Identity type "transcends any hierarchy" in which case A) why isn't it tier 0 and B) what feats does it have to make these statements actually mean that.
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The more in-depth description is for the page itself unless you want me to re-tool the entire verse page into it.
It's not Tier 0 because it simply won't be. It is not Tier 0, end of story. Not entirely sure what kind of feats you want me to give an entirely impersonal, non-sentient mass of Pollution that does literally nothing other than serve as the reason for why shit happens.
It's not Tier 0 because it simply won't be. It is not Tier 0, end of story. Not entirely sure what kind of feats you want me to give an entirely impersonal, non-sentient mass of Pollution that does literally nothing other than serve as the reason for why shit happens.
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I think it would be easier to make the page first before saying how powerful the verse is because of it, because until you make that page the only information on the Factory is "creates the abstract energy that gives everything else its power" and "exists far outside the scope of any mathematical theory, concept, or explaination, as well as any philosophical idea or concept, being the abstract one-ness that the evolutionary singularity would eventually create. In addition, it appears to outright transcend any form of logic, heirarchy, or structure regardless of size or complexity."
Which really sounds like "muh 1-A energy source" with no further nuance or reason for existing.
What sort of things has it done to warrant "beyond all hierarchies and logic" if it's just a non-sentient thing that the entire rest of the verse has nothing on?
Sorry to be brutal, but it looks to me like you took my basic description of Aether's "power", and just said "mine is on that level too" without even bothering to explain why
Which really sounds like "muh 1-A energy source" with no further nuance or reason for existing.
What sort of things has it done to warrant "beyond all hierarchies and logic" if it's just a non-sentient thing that the entire rest of the verse has nothing on?
Sorry to be brutal, but it looks to me like you took my basic description of Aether's "power", and just said "mine is on that level too" without even bothering to explain why
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Well consider the following
even the rather small amounts of Pollution found within Polluted basically totally separate them from conventional logic and common sense
The Factory is literally made of the stuff
connect the dots
even the rather small amounts of Pollution found within Polluted basically totally separate them from conventional logic and common sense
The Factory is literally made of the stuff
connect the dots
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The exact same wording of being outside logic and common sense is used to describe the qualities of the basic Longinus Dreizhen Orden.
Also unless every tiny bit of pollution is 1-A to begin with, an Infinite amount of it making something still wouldn't make that thing 1-A
Also unless every tiny bit of pollution is 1-A to begin with, an Infinite amount of it making something still wouldn't make that thing 1-A
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Except that it's literal here. Even the most smallest amount of Pollution above what is considered baseline causes logic to take a vacation on those involved. This isn't just flowery language or anything, logic straight up does not apply to Polluted.
I never said how much Pollution there was or how big The Factory was, which you seemed to have assumed that I did since your entire argument there relies on the size of The Factory. Regardless, the effects of such concentrated and large quantities of Pollution caused even it's own internal logic to break down. This is most of the reason for The Factory being at the scale that it is, since the "amount" of Pollution it contains isn't even remotely measurable or confined by mathematics in general.
I never said how much Pollution there was or how big The Factory was, which you seemed to have assumed that I did since your entire argument there relies on the size of The Factory. Regardless, the effects of such concentrated and large quantities of Pollution caused even it's own internal logic to break down. This is most of the reason for The Factory being at the scale that it is, since the "amount" of Pollution it contains isn't even remotely measurable or confined by mathematics in general.
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I'm working on it off-site
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Ive been told to bump this for some reason .
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Now that thats done im out.
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School started gimme a break
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