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Hyperdimension Neptunia Revisions Part 2 - Abilities, Tier Adjustments and Misc.

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KaiokenBlueGT said:
Don't have time to respond atm, but I'll use what I've got to make a quick updated tally showing what we've got now:

(Updated) Voting Tally
Moderator/Admin votes are displayed in bold text, even for retired members.

MHS+ Speed Upgrade
Agree: 10 (Edwardtruong2006, KingTempest, Xmark12, Smashtwig, Thetechmaster36, HyperNepsy, AlexSoloVaAlFuturo, Shmooply, Schnee_One, Kuro4416)
Neutral: 3 (Veloxt1r0kore, Planck69, Vietthai96)
Disagree: 3 (Pain_to12, Qawsedf234, Mr._Bambu)

1-C Upgrade
Agree: 0
Neutral: 10 (Veloxt1r0kore, KingTempest(?), Thetechmaster36, HyperNepsy, Planck69 [1], AlexSoloVaAlFuturo, Vietthai96, Qawsedf234 [1], Mr._Bambu [1], Kuro4416 [2])
Disagree: 6 (Edwardtruong2006, Xmark12, Smashtwig, Shmooply, Schnee_One, Kuro4416 [2])
[1] - Thinks a "possibly" rating could work, but not a full-on upgrade.
[2] - Is neutral, but is leaning towards disagree.

Ability Additions + Removals
Agree: 14 (Planck69, Xmark12, Smashtwig, Thetechmaster36, HyperNepsy, AlexSoloVaAlFuturo, Veloxt1r0kore, Edwardtruong2006, KingTempest, Shmooply, Schnee_One, Qawsedf234, Mr._Bambu, Kuro4416)
Neutral: 1 (Vietthai96)
Disagree: 0

Additional Tier 2 Justifications + New BoS Tier
Agree: 13 (Xmark12, KingTempest, Thetechmaster36, HyperNepsy, AlexSoloVaAlFuturo, Edwardtruong2006, Planck69, Smashtwig, Shmooply, Schnee_One, Qawsedf234, Mr._Bambu, Kuro4416)
Neutral: 1 (Vietthai96)
Disagree: 0

Like before, if I made a mistake, misinterpreted, or didn't count your vote, please let me know.
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I did not vote on anything barring the MHS+ stuff. I think you should be more careful with your vote counting.
 
Mr._Bambu said:
Bit busy, so I won't go over everything given Qawsed seems to have it handled,
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My bad, I kinda assumed you were agreeing with all of what Qawsed was saying because of what I bolded above.

Not a problem though, I'll just remove your name from everything but the speed section.

Mr._Bambu said:
I think you should be more careful with your vote counting.
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I made one mistake, so saying this isn't really necessary.

In any case, it's been rectified.
 
Bumping for additional responses.
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Schnee_One said:
Disagree if it doesn't meet standards I guess
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Just in case you haven't seen it yet, your vote has been moved to Disagree. (y)
 
So since we have three staff disagreements with MHS+, that'll get removed and replaced with "Unknown, at least Hypersonic" until better feats are found. . .somewhere.

1-C has only one staff disagreement and two neutral staff that say a "possibly" rating could work. Perhaps some more input on that would be nice before we decide to wrap up this thread and apply the changes.
 
thetechmaster36 said:
So since we have three staff disagreements with MHS+, that'll get removed and replaced with "Unknown, at least Hypersonic" until better feats are found. . .somewhere.

1-C has only one staff disagreement and two neutral staff that say a "possibly" rating could work. Perhaps some more input on that would be nice before we decide to wrap up this thread and apply the changes.
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@Mr._Bambu @Schnee_One @Qawsedf234 @KingTempest @Planck69 @AlexSoloVaAlFuturo

What do you think about this?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
when the scaling blog is made
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Question: What is it you exactly want to see from the scaling blog? Just a blog to show who is stronger than who and why? Because we don't exactly have any values for multipliers or anything, just that we know one entity is stronger than another through cutscenes, statements, and lore.
 
Thank you for helping out, Qawsedf.
 
thetechmaster36 said:
Question: What is it you exactly want to see from the scaling blog?
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The blog is primarily for VS Debating / A general idea of how above baseline they're going to be.


thetechmaster36 said:
, just that we know one entity is stronger than another through cutscenes, statements, and lore.
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Yeah. You can make it a bullet point esq thing like with Dragon Ball or One Piece.

I'll link what I'm picturing at the moment.
 
How would you like us to format it, in that case? Because the way I think it could be formatted is like:
  • Feat, Statement, Cutscene, etc. (context for the scaling)
    • Scaling (x scales above y for reason z)
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If you have a different idea, you can show a snippet from the chains you're talking about so it gives us a general idea as to what needs to be done.
 
thetechmaster36 said:
How would you like us to format it, in that case?
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  • Base CPUs = Base Candidates = Base Gold Third > Makers > Beginning of game Neptune = Beginning of game Nepgear = Feat they scale tp
  • True/Post-Revival Uzume = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Very low Shares HDD Candidates = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Very low Shares HDD CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Very low Shares T/PR Orange Heart = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Low Shares HDD Candidates = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Low Shares HDD CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Steamax = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Low Shares T/PR Orange Heart = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Below-average Shares HDD Candidates = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Below-average Shares HDD CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Warechu King = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Below-average Shares T/PR Orange Heart = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Ultra Dimension Neptune ⇄ Base Arfoire = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Average Shares HDD Candidates = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Gold Form w/o Crystal = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Gold Third w/ Crystal = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Average Shares HDD CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Average Shares T/PR Orange Heart = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • DoS Arfoire = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Affimojas = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Depowered Dark Purple-infused Arfoire = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • True DoS Arfoire = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Incomplete Dark CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Full Power Dark Purple-infused Arfoire = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • High Share HDD Candidates = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Complete Dark CPUs ⇄ High Share HDD CPUs = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • High Shares T/PR Orange Hear = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Base Kurome w/o Rei’s powers = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Depowered Dark Orange = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Base Kurome w/ Rei’s powers = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
  • Next Forms ⇄ Full Power Dark Orange = Statement / Feat about being above last tier
We can't just link a series with twenty levels of upscaling without an explanation blog.
 
Thanks for the example, it's really giving us a clearer idea on what to do - since we were pretty confused before.

We're currently working on a draft version in one of my Sandboxes, and we'll hopefully have it complete soon. (y)
 
Thank you to everybody who are helping out here.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
And now with my status as matches ambassador and the most well known match-maker here i'm going to bless curse Neptunia characters with my hand once again
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have fun making matches with base kurome, we'll invade em and say "empath gg" lololololololololol

In all seriousness, yeah, we're working on the blog; when we finish it, we'll post it here and have it looked at, make any adjustments necessary, and then we should be good to go.
 
Well, what Qawsedf, Bambu, Planck, and KingTempest have accepted here can probably be applied at least.
 
Yes. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.
 
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