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I looked, nothing addressed what I said.See Above
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I looked, nothing addressed what I said.See Above
The dirt thing isn't a relevent counter argument. If Sanji was only covered in dirt, and he was hurt by Page One, then Page One's ap would scale above X-Drake, and that would make him H6A.I looked, nothing addressed what I said.
Good point nglThe dirt thing isn't a relevent counter argument. If Sanji was only covered in dirt, and he was hurt by Page One, then Page One's ap would scale above X-Drake, and that would make him H6A.
And Sanji still took no damage from Zoan Drake's hit, unless you want to make Drake's AP scale above his durability?Drake laughed off his attacks.
Would it be a crime to make it scale above his durability?And Sanji still took no damage from Zoan Drake's hit, unless you want to make Drake's AP scale above his durability?
No, but we can't just make his dura scale above his AP because Sanji tanked his hit. There has to be more proof and a good reason.Would it be a crime to make it scale above his durability?
This is Sanji prior to the Drake fight and prior to Onigashima. For the same reason we don't scale Page One's AP & Dura for taking and overpowering hits from Sanji to later versions of him.and he was hurt by Page One, then Page One's ap would scale above X-Drake, and that would make him H6A.
Nami is a completely different case, as she is more of a "magician" so she is someone whose main attacks don't have any relation with her body, but for physical fighters they'd get hurt from any attack they use if their AP was higher than their dura.We've got glass cannons like Nami who has Zeus in her arsenal.
I find that slightly hypocritical due to who it's coming from, but I actually agree in this context.Please don't go down this dumbass path in trying to make everyone High 6-A
?I find that slightly hypocritical due to who it's coming from
Not gonna go into detail I don't wanna start an unnecessary flame war with Tempest.
He's still a wee salty that Lucci got High 6-A cause he fought Luffy and clashed with him becuase Luffy put him out like a light in a few hits
It's more than that but pop off I guess.He's still a wee salty that Lucci got High 6-A cause he fought Luffy and clashed with him becuase Luffy put him out like a light in a few hits
People are not hard to knock out contrary to popular belief
The feat comes from Hybrid Maria.Base Black Maria is not comparable to Hybrid Queen in any way shape or form
Why is it a dumbass path? This makes no sense.Please don't go down this dumbass path in trying to make everyone High 6-A
The physical side of it is all humanThe feat comes from Hybrid Maria.
I said she shouldn’t be comparableAnd as i said above, this wouldn't make her scale above Queen at all.
NoSanji without buso < Maria < Sanji with buso ~ Hybrid Queen
Cause you guys are trying to make an endless backscaling chain off of the god tiersWhy is it a dumbass path? This makes no sense.
But doesn't it still amp her strength and what not? That's kind of the nature of Zoans iirc.The physical side of it is all human
Ain't no way bro said thisCause you guys are trying to make an endless backscaling chain off of the god tiers
She tweaked her zoan forms with drugsBut doesn't it still amp her strength and what not? That's kind of the nature of Zoans iirc.
It does, her upper body no longer transforms due to said drugs so there's no reason to assume that part of her would get the stat amp from being transformed.That doesn't mean she doesn't get stronger from it though..
Hm, okay.It does, her upper body no longer transforms due to said drugs so there's no reason to assume that part of her would get the stat amp from being transformed.
By transforming into their animal. When her fruit specifically doesn't transform her top half into an animal, then she isn't stronger where her body remains the sameBut doesn't it still amp her strength and what not? That's kind of the nature of Zoans iirc.
The OP is trying to backscale the Tobiroppo from a value that stems from Kaidou.Ain't no way bro said this
this could easily be just cosmeticIt does, her upper body no longer transforms due to said drugs so there's no reason to assume that part of her would get the stat amp from being transformed.
It's not.this could easily be just cosmetic
It's okay Eminiteable answered me, I take back what I said.By transforming into their animal. When her fruit specifically doesn't transform her top half into an animal, then she isn't stronger where her body remains the same
The OP is trying to backscale the Tobiroppo from a value that stems from Kaidou.
I hope yall hear that
Yall are pretty much saying the Tobiroppo are in the same breath as Kaidou
Don't ever call people crazy for takes like that when you've said some ridiculous stuff your self.Lucci is a god tier - KingTempest, Jan 2, 2023
The context used here is that black maria didnt like how her spider form looked, so she tweaked how it looks, nothing about the strengthIt's not.
And that strength comes from being transformed which she tweaked to remain the same as in base.The context used here is that black maria didnt like how her spider form looked, so she tweaked how it looks, nothing about the strength
no context given suggests that her strength was affectedAnd that strength comes from being transformed which she tweaked to remain the same as in base.
And there doesn't need to be, as I've already said their stat amp comes from transforming themselves and her upper half isn't transformed, so her upper half wouldn't be any stronger than it was in her base.no context given suggests that her strength was affected
no correlation whatsoever.I mean, Luffy gets amped by G2 but it doesn't really give him a huge difference in appearance.
Maybe Black Maria is the same.
shes still transformed, she just made it so her upper half still looks like a humanAnd there doesn't need to be, as I've already said their stat amp comes from transforming themselves and her upper half isn't transformed, so her upper half wouldn't be any stronger than it was in her base.
No, her upperhalf just isn't transformed that's why she has two heads in her hybrid form; the top half is her human half and the bottom is the Zoan.shes still transformed, she just made it so her upper half still looks like a human
...The physical side of it is all human
Why shouldn't she? Because of Jack's statement?I said she shouldn’t be comparable
Sorry, what exactly is wrong with the scaling chain i gave you?
Which is better than the current gap which has a 44,000x gap from the Tobiroppo to JackCause you guys are trying to make an endless backscaling chain off of the god tiers
Kaido himself scales above the original value iirc, I am pretty sure we scale things like:The OP is trying to backscale the Tobiroppo from a value that stems from Kaidou.
?Yall are pretty much saying the Tobiroppo are in the same breath as Kaidou
Shiki < Gura Gura < Magu Magu < Oldbeard < Base Kaido
its annoying how much vs debating for a lot of verses rely on long scaling chainsStill can't believe this is how we do things currently tbh
CRT! CRT! CRT! CRT! CRT!Still can't believe this is how we do things currently tbh