Huge MCU revision

[ByAsura]

Ok. I just forgot because Age of Ultron is so forgettable, IMO.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

And I disagree that Iron Man was "stomping" Ultron. It took a long fight for Iron Man to knock Ultron down and finally destroy him.

 

[Gemmysaur]

It was more Ultron hindering Iron Man with as much as he can throw, and then flying away. But yeah, Ultron was only destroyed when Iron Man brought out the small missile.

 

[Blitzedaken]

i think the fight is long because they keep on flying and manuerving very quickly. a single missile destroying ultron immediately is not impressive for ultron. length of the fight does not mean anything if ultron failed to even scratch/damage him.

it has been a long time ago and we should not powerscale the civil war final fight. it's full of inconsistency and context. i disagree with 8-a cap, even if its at most.

if someone brings up the cap vs ultron fight. cap only scratched him by throwing the vibranium shield which is already 8-a in his profile.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Physically overpowering someone is enough to scale your AP.

 

[Newendigo]

Can we forget about 8-A Cap? Regarless of consistency or outliers, the calc is wrong, not point on discussing it.

Its better to first downgrade everyone that is 8-A, and later disscuss who scales to each other.

 

[Qawsedf234]

What's the suggested rating then? High 8-C?

 

[Schnee_One]

Either that or the feat gets recalced for the reasons I stated

 

[KLOL506]

We need a recalc.

 

[Antvasima]

If Spino is not interested, you can ask here as well: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1955985

 

[Newendigo]

From where it came the High 8-C again?

Also, there is a speed feat from the Hulkbuster when it falls from orbit, someone could calc that.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Aren't we scaling them to Loki?

 

[Schnee_One]

Are we? Because there's a complete lack of discussion on it and Matt calls it an outlier

 

[Schnee_One]

From where it came the High 8-C again?

MK6 has a 10 Gigawatt reactor

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I guess it is better to recalc it.

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2298662?useskin=oasis

All the reasons are stated here

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I will try to recalculate the helicarrier feat.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...an/Iron_Man_pushes_a_helicarrier_rotor_recalc

Calculating the KE Iron Man was pushing the rotor still gets me 8-A.

 

[Schnee_One]

How many tons?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

376.8

 

[Newendigo]

How many tons gave the previous calc?

Also, don't forget the speed feat of the Hulkbuster, is when veronica falls from the atmosphere in a short time frame.

 

[Schnee_One]

336, which makes zero sense

 

[DragonEmperor23]

lol

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

How many tons gave the previous calc?

Also, don't forget the speed feat of the Hulkbuster, is when veronica falls from the atmosphere in a short time frame.

Does it scale to anyone

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

So nothing changed for the 8-As...

That was fun.

 

[Schnee_One]

336, which makes zero sense

No seriously, why did a calc which uses a lower calculation and end wield higher results?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Veronica's feat doesn't scale to anything.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Bump

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have decided to withdraw my proposal that the MCU should be upgraded to Sub-Relativistic for now. It does seem a bit outlandish. I would wait for Avengers 4.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

My opinion on the other issues are unchanged, however.

Btw, is Veronica's feat worth calculating? Who does it scale to?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Also, Therefir suggested to use RKE for the Iron Man calc, which gets High 8-C. I don't agree though. I'll see what other calc group members think

 

[Antvasima]

So what issues remain to be discussed here?

 

[ByAsura]

Did Veronica itself save these people or its individual parts? And was this from the Hulk and Hulkbuster fight?

 

[Qawsedf234]

If High 8-C is the correct version that makes the 10 GJ reactor thing less of a disproportionate claim.

 

[Schnee_One]

If High 8-C is the correct version that makes the 10 GJ reactor thing less of a disproportionate claim.

Have a scan for this?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I do not. It reportedly comes from the ''Iron Man Manual'' by Daniel Wallace

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So what issues remain to be discussed here?

All the other stuff.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. A recap might be useful to keep the discussion going though.

 

[KLOL506]

The 8-A calc was accepted without any corrections, as apparently it was found out that RKE is just a portion of the total KE, therefore, the 376 tons was the correct option.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Do any profile links need to be updated?