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Of the Manga? Or the game?
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Honkai Impact 3rd
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Can't really help much here lol.
Just played for 2 days.
Just played for 2 days.
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Same here, plus Bronya ^^Makkurona said:
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Following Waifu profile :3
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Had someone said about immortality of Hesshers ?
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Not as far as I readed back.
Probably focused more on what's in the game.
Probably focused more on what's in the game.
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They can remain spiritual ,mind ,soul or existence as long the core didn't completely destroyed.
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Scaling from Joachim and Sirin
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Do they also regen from it? If so, that's Low Godly by this wiki. Although it also helps depending on if it's combat applicable or not.
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Also, did somebody find if Gunz Girl Z is canon to Honkai impact 3rd? if yes, then I think Sirin will be Low 2-C or 3-A
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Probably no, The Core could help them from annihilated on Spiritual level but the physical is required for vessel or use much energy to materialize their physical form if i not mistook.
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Ah darn.
Either way, that's Immortality type 8 and maybe 1 at least?
Either way, that's Immortality type 8 and maybe 1 at least?
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I think all Herrschers have Immortality Type 1 because Fu Bua, Kevin, and God Kiana are 50,000+ years old.
https://houkai3rd.fandom.com/wiki/Fu_Hua
https://houkai3rd.fandom.com/wiki/Fu_Hua
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Following on you wrote, did you has any feat or scans ?
http://imgur.com/gallery/yi5t39u
Fiarly good , but i've heard about GGZ scaling to honkia and have a 2-A scans ?
http://imgur.com/gallery/yi5t39u
Fiarly good , but i've heard about GGZ scaling to honkia and have a 2-A scans ?
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I think that's in a retconned GGZ VN?
In any case, I'd love a Verse Page for this.
In any case, I'd love a Verse Page for this.
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Following on you wrote, did you has any feat or scans ?
http://imgur.com/gallery/yi5t39u
Fiarly good , but i've heard about GGZ scaling to honkia and have a 2-A scans ?
I have scans for infinite univeses in SOQ. But I don't have scans of God Kiana erasing it.
http://imgur.com/gallery/yi5t39u
Fiarly good , but i've heard about GGZ scaling to honkia and have a 2-A scans ?
I have scans for infinite univeses in SOQ. But I don't have scans of God Kiana erasing it.
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>2A GGZ
That's a first I've heard out of this series.
Even if it's legit, it still needs to be proven that GGZ is connected to HI3. I haven't had much luck in that search, plus in the middle of finishing a translation of a book I'm doing atm, but it's anyone's worth if they can find it somehow.
@Diinou: I have the same thought for Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha. We've only got the tituliar-ish MC herself but no other chars nor even a verse page ;-;
That's a first I've heard out of this series.
Even if it's legit, it still needs to be proven that GGZ is connected to HI3. I haven't had much luck in that search, plus in the middle of finishing a translation of a book I'm doing atm, but it's anyone's worth if they can find it somehow.
@Diinou: I have the same thought for Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha. We've only got the tituliar-ish MC herself but no other chars nor even a verse page ;-;
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Nanoha did have at least a profile tho.
HI3 has like, a discussion Thread with no Topics to link to.
HI3 has like, a discussion Thread with no Topics to link to.
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Point.
That's likely due to no one having made a profile or even verse page of HI3 yet.
I'd actually help out if I wasn't invested so much on one of my particular series rn, though it's admittiedly hard to follow up on the verse anyways cuz of occasional lag...there might come a time to get back into it later.
That's likely due to no one having made a profile or even verse page of HI3 yet.
I'd actually help out if I wasn't invested so much on one of my particular series rn, though it's admittiedly hard to follow up on the verse anyways cuz of occasional lag...there might come a time to get back into it later.
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Sirin, she's our ticket to proving this.Qliphoth Bacikal said:
[If you are playing/actually looking through GGZ, don't read this]
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Sirin was born as the "Herrscher of the End", whom is the ultimate big bad in the "Old World" (GGZ), and is responsible of creating the "New World" (HI3) when she destroyed and reset reality after defeating Mei (the last one standing at that moment).As to where I found this, it's on her Villains Wiki page by someone who has done an incredible amount of work detailing her appearances in both GGZ and HI3 - in fact it's the guy's favourite villain lol
For actual, physical evidence, I'm fairly certain HoTE appears in a HI3 manga iirc, I'm fairly certain this image right here is in one of them.
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Are there exact scans for it tho
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I'm sure there are, just need to get around to providing them when I get the chance today
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Best find it quick. Controversial stuffs like Tier 2 feats and above need clear scans and contexts.
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It doesn't need to be quick, we're not doing a revision here
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Don't want to have to keep hiding everything behind a spoiler, so is anyone in here into GGZ that hasn't played it to the end?
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At the end of GGZ, we see HotE and Herrscher Mei conversing to one another, with the final scene being where Mei used some piece of unknown tech to seal Kiana on the moon (which is revealed in a HI3 manga), but not before she starts recreating the world with parallel versions of everyone so that she could eventually finish what she started in the New World.
This would mean that the "Honkai God" on the moon that Sirin and Otto sees in the 2nd Eruption manga in HI3 would be GGZ HotE.
God Kiana resets everything upon Mei's defeat
Dr. Mei and God Kiana from GGZ in HI3: 2nd Herrscher
Sirin talking to her past-self (GGZ HotE) as well as revealing how Dr. Mei managed to force God Kiana to reset everything
Scan from HI3: 2nd Herrscher confirming that HotE did wipe out everything
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At the end of GGZ, we see HotE and Herrscher Mei conversing to one another, with the final scene being where Mei used some piece of unknown tech to seal Kiana on the moon (which is revealed in a HI3 manga), but not before she starts recreating the world with parallel versions of everyone so that she could eventually finish what she started in the New World.
This would mean that the "Honkai God" on the moon that Sirin and Otto sees in the 2nd Eruption manga in HI3 would be GGZ HotE.
God Kiana resets everything upon Mei's defeat
Dr. Mei and God Kiana from GGZ in HI3: 2nd Herrscher
Sirin talking to her past-self (GGZ HotE) as well as revealing how Dr. Mei managed to force God Kiana to reset everything
Scan from HI3: 2nd Herrscher confirming that HotE did wipe out everything
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So.... Tier 2 herrschers
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Alright, so after talking with Genks on the matter, we presented several ideas that I think everyone here should see and give their opinions on.
Please note that we think that HotE from GGZ and HotE from HI3 are two seperate people, the ideas below should help explain why.
After the chat, it was pointed out that a few elements in HI3 didn't match up with GGZ:
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Mei in the HI3 timeline (Old World) wasn't the last one standing like she was in GGZ.
In HI3 the last survivors were the MANTISes, which would include Kevin Kaslana and Fu Hua. 2. HotE, unlike her GGZ counterpart,
Spoiler
didn't reset everything, but instead resetting civilisation overall instead.
This explains why there are records, leftovers and hell even people to tell the tale from the "Old Civilsation" in the first place in HI3, which after another look, makes far more sense than following the GGZ approach.
So what am I trying to get at exactly?
Well, we both came down to thinking that perhaps for the profiles, we should split up the HI3 and GGZ counterparts into seperate profiles, but now we're down to one problem (which I'm hoping we can all come together to form an opinion on): If we're going to be doing this, what should the overall name of the verse be? Honkai Gakuen or Honkai Impact?
Please note that we think that HotE from GGZ and HotE from HI3 are two seperate people, the ideas below should help explain why.
After the chat, it was pointed out that a few elements in HI3 didn't match up with GGZ:
1.
Spoiler
Mei in the HI3 timeline (Old World) wasn't the last one standing like she was in GGZ.
In HI3 the last survivors were the MANTISes, which would include Kevin Kaslana and Fu Hua. 2. HotE, unlike her GGZ counterpart,
Spoiler
didn't reset everything, but instead resetting civilisation overall instead.
This explains why there are records, leftovers and hell even people to tell the tale from the "Old Civilsation" in the first place in HI3, which after another look, makes far more sense than following the GGZ approach.
So what am I trying to get at exactly?
Well, we both came down to thinking that perhaps for the profiles, we should split up the HI3 and GGZ counterparts into seperate profiles, but now we're down to one problem (which I'm hoping we can all come together to form an opinion on): If we're going to be doing this, what should the overall name of the verse be? Honkai Gakuen or Honkai Impact?
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So... in other words, Low 2-C or 2-A HotE for GGZ and Tier 6 HotE for HI3???
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Honkai GirlZ obviously
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Btw, does anyone have any sandboxes for HI3 characters that can be the template
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Def in the case of GGZ.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
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I don't think there was.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
So we may have to build it up from scratch.
BTW, are we going with the conclusion that GGZ is not directly connected to HI3?
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Smolice has a Kiana draft in her Blogs
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So basically GGZ and HI3 don't quite match up with what lore of each say of each other right? History-wise I mean.
In that case, it might be best to have them separate if there are inconsistencies for sure.
@Witch: That could work? IDK if there ever was a collective names for those two but I've seen a tag on Danbooru (yeaH~) of one called "Honkai (Series)". Don't quite think that's good enough though but it can be another suggestion. Honkai Girlz is a pretty interesting name since it at least acknowledges HI3's predecessor.
In that case, it might be best to have them separate if there are inconsistencies for sure.
@Witch: That could work? IDK if there ever was a collective names for those two but I've seen a tag on Danbooru (yeaH~) of one called "Honkai (Series)". Don't quite think that's good enough though but it can be another suggestion. Honkai Girlz is a pretty interesting name since it at least acknowledges HI3's predecessor.
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Maybe miHoYoverse?
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Hmm could work, although when I think of using the names of a creator (like Nasu or Masada) or that of a company/publisher/developer (don't think I've seen that last one used yet?), I assume that includes making pages for all other series/products.
It's what came down for naming the What a Beautiful Series, since using the creator's name (Hikaru Sakurai) for the verse would imply we're making stuff from all their other works. Same thing with using the publisher name (in this case like Sakurai, Liar-soft).
Edit: It's also, yet again, the same if we went for Steampunkverse as that implies we're doing a genre verse. Not the actual series itself that's often called Steampunk series by the fans.
But idk. Overall, it's up to what the naming of the verse will be like. Though I will say that might be important to make first and then come back to doing the character profiles? Whichever way works or is convenient for everyone else here.
It's what came down for naming the What a Beautiful Series, since using the creator's name (Hikaru Sakurai) for the verse would imply we're making stuff from all their other works. Same thing with using the publisher name (in this case like Sakurai, Liar-soft).
Edit: It's also, yet again, the same if we went for Steampunkverse as that implies we're doing a genre verse. Not the actual series itself that's often called Steampunk series by the fans.
But idk. Overall, it's up to what the naming of the verse will be like. Though I will say that might be important to make first and then come back to doing the character profiles? Whichever way works or is convenient for everyone else here.
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