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Homura Akemi Vs Madoka Kaname

Monarch Laciel said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufpmAQ7rtC8Nothing in this scene suggests the world exists outside of time and space.
Homura is never stated to be 5-D, nor is she shown or stated to be infinitely more powerful than a 2-A, which are the requirments for a High 2-A rating,

"Being outside and an ability to move herself and other objects back and forward in time to any random points make it 5-D space."


This is not a showing of 5-D space. It is possible to exist "outside time and space" without being 5-D, and moving things backwards and forwards in time (which Devil Homura isn't even shown to do) is just time travel
https://youtu.be/ufpmAQ7rtC8?t=72 from this moment it is

and this https://youtu.be/QSGROWEtSE4?t=154

she recreated the universe, she didn't wait for million years till civilization grows up(like Madokami did), she just went to straight to Madoka's time

acausality + timetravel in 4-D space = 5-D character

I can even prove that Homura is 1-C, but it's just not worth it.
 
Recreating the universe is a Low 2-C feat, which is borderline 4-D.

Acausality and time travel do not correlate to Tiering / How many dimensions a character is composed of either.

And I seriously doubt you can prove she is 1-C...
 
Nsmch said:
The most you could say about what is hapening in that video is that she has slowed time

and this https://youtu.be/QSGROWEtSE4?t=154

Wierd stuff going on maybe, but nothing showing she is outside space-time

And again, being outside space-time does not qualify for being 5-D

she recreated the universe, she didn't wait for million years till civilization grows up(like Madokami did), she just went to straight to Madoka's time

Madoka didn't "wait" either. She is omnipresent throughout space-time

acausality + timetravel in 4-D space = 5-D character

No

I can even prove that Homura is 1-C, but it's just not worth it.

Please, try.
 
There are 3 feats which qualify for High 2-A:

1) being shown/stated to be 5D (as in, being referred to as five-dimensional or defeating a 5D being). Never happened in PMMM.

2) being infinitely stronger than a 2-A. Never happened either. We don't even know who is stronger between Homura and Madoka.

3) being stated to trascend a 4D being as much as the latter transcends a regular 3D being. Guess what? Never happened
 
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