High 6-C Fire and Cold Tournament 2022: (FINALE) Meliodas vs Grimgor Ironhide

[speedster352]

Speed, I don't think higher AP would help.
I mean, Meliodas wincon could be that he severely damage of kill him at the start with full power when Grimgor is 6C
But that isn't really in character for Meliodas

Grimgor amps and it's game I guess

But with the ap upgrade, he will go above 200 gigatons to at least 500 gigatons in a better key. Meliodas could win by grabbing him and head slice since grim can't regen from that

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So should i ask some mod to close this?

Just wait, we are in voting session and unless it get derailed too hard, this match shouldn't be closed prematurely

 

[Popted2]

wait for the close, lets finish this match first,

 

[Naito-desu]

I counted the vote to six (Me, Soma, Velox, Popted, VsBattleRefree, Lugh), we need one more to end this nightmare, please someone have a heart

 

[speedster352]

This has nothing to do with the actual finale, Stop people just finish this.

It won't take too long the upgrade will bring up Meliodas ap by a significant amount and his high 6-c key will be way stronger

 

[RoTt35]

Grimgor FRA

 

[VsReferee]

But with the ap upgrade, he will go above 200 gigatons to at least 500 gigatons in a better key. Meliodas could win by grabbing him and head slice since grim can't regen from that

just curious, what version Meliodas is that? I don't follow

 

[Naito-desu]

Grimgor FRA

I'm free

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I counted the vote to six (Me, Soma, Velox, Popted, VsBattleRefree, Lugh), we need one more

I already contacted my homies @RandomGuy2345 @GlaceonGamez471 @Peppersalt43 to comes for voting

EDIT: NVM Rot is the MVP lmao

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

And that's 7 Votes Grace has started

 

[Popted2]

also since Speedster as always can't even do proper arguments or in the end he just really stonewalling and annoy everyone, ignore him and if there is someone like Kachon who want to make arguments for Meliodas, please say it

 

[DemonicDude]

But with the ap upgrade, he will go above 200 gigatons to at least 500 gigatons in a better key. Meliodas could win by grabbing him and head slice since grim can't regen from that

Will this actually work or not ? If it will work then fine we can wait if not then there's really no point someone please confirm.

 

[speedster352]

You do realize this is a stomp match right?

 

[speedster352]

Will this actually work or not ? If it will work then fine we can wait if not then there's really no point someone please confirm.

Estarossa, of course, is inferior to Tarmiel and Sariel, but we'll assume he's equal just for our purposes. 1.043582982790 Teratons (Small Country level)

Derieri can tank her own Full Counters, and both Estarossa and Post-Time Skip base Meliodas could fatally/semi-fatally injure her. So we can downscale her to well under half of the Archangels. 521.79149139 Gigatons (Large Island level)

2nd Mark Meliodas has a higher power level and withstood a considerable Combo Star barrage from her, so we can downscale his base by 4x. 130.44787284 Gigatons (Large Island level)

So, Large Island level for Estarossa, Derieri, Drole, etc makes sense, imo, and maybe Island level or at most Large Island level works for Ten Commandments Arc Base Meliodas.

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also since Speedster as always can't even do proper arguments or in the end he just really stonewalling and annoy everyone, ignore him and if there is someone like Kachon who want to make arguments for Meliodas, please say it

How can I make arguements it's a stomp match

 

[SomaKing13]

But with the ap upgrade, he will go above 200 gigatons to at least 500 gigatons in a better key. Meliodas could win by grabbing him and head slice since grim can't regen from that

Except its not that simple, "at least 500 gigatons" is still below massively scaling up from characters who heavily scale up to the beings who performed a 510 gigaton feat by just...moving their wings, let alone actually putting any effort into attacking. While Meli has the higher lifting strength atm, just "grabbing him" isn't a viable strategy when the dude has a massive melee range advantage over the shortstack and is stupidly skilled in close combat. This is all still ignoring that his amps with make him skyrocket very quickly. It wouldn't be a stomp, but Grimgor still mid-diff as the best case scenario for Meliodas.

 

[Majinere566]

also since Speedster as always can't even do proper arguments or in the end he just really stonewalling and annoy everyone, ignore him and if there is someone like Kachon who want to make arguments for Meliodas, please say it

I really don't see an argument for meliodas

 

[Popted2]

You do realize this is a stomp match right?

okau dude this is enough, you are always like this, ignore arguments, wanking your characters and in the end your arguments are either bad or bad explained,

and when your characters is losing you say its a stomp, that's it if you don't have anything to say just shut up, cause i really have lost the patiece against you

 

[DemonicDude]

Nierre >>>>> This Tournament

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Nierre >>>>> This Tournament

Who tf is Nierre?

 

[VsReferee]

I really don't see an argument for meliodas

There isn't XD

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

okau dude this is enough, you are always like this, ignore arguments, wanking your characters and in the end your arguments are either bad or bad explained,

and when your characters is losing you say its a stomp, that's it if you don't have anything to say just shut up, cause i really have lost the patiece against you

Chill, at least he doesn't have a grudge against Tatsumi#Run

 

[DemonicDude]

Who tf is Nierre?

Someone who is everything to me.

 

[speedster352]

okau dude this is enough, you are always like this, ignore arguments, wanking your characters and in the end your arguments are either bad or bad explained,

and when your characters is losing you say its a stomp, that's it if you don't have anything to say just shut up, cause i really have lost the patiece against you

Look I am not wanking Meliodas. I am just saying after his upgrade he will be stronger and it will be a better match. You don't want this to be a stomp match so please I am begging you just allow the final nnt upgrades to be added and this can be a better match. Please

 

[speedster352]

Look I am not wanking Meliodas. I am just saying after his upgrade he will be stronger and it will be a better match. You don't want this to be a stomp match so please I am begging you just allow the final nnt upgrades to be added and this can be a better match. Please

Someone who is everything to me.

Please

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Someone who is everything to me.

You mean the other user here in VSB?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@speedster352 I think it's already too late, and i doubt that CRT can get in in short timr

 

[DemonicDude]

You mean the other user here in VSB?

Well...I guarantee ya if Nierre was participating it would be R.I.P to everyone.

 

[Popted2]

no you listen to me, you either let talk someone else who is very knowledgeble to the series, or don't talk, because evrytime you debate its always end in a stonewalling,
i have no trust in you

Look I am not wanking Meliodas. I am just saying after his upgrade he will be stronger and it will be a better match. You don't want this to be a stomp match so please I am begging you just allow the final nnt upgrades to be added and this can be a better match. Please

 

[VsReferee]

Ohya, Speedster

just curious, what version Meliodas is that? I don't follow

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Tbh even if we wait the revisions it would be down to skill and amps and also Grimgor's AP is based on this if i didn't misinterpret it

"at least 500 gigatons" is still below massively scaling up from characters who heavily scale up to the beings who performed a 510 gigaton feat by just...moving their wings, let alone actually putting any effort into attacking.

That would mean he still have the AP advantage if i didn't misunderstood it

 

[DemonicDude]

Then let's wait for Revisions

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Ohya, Speedster

It's Post Time Skip 2nd Demon Mark Meliodas who's gonna be 540ish Gigatons

Post Time Skip Base Meliodas is gonna be 135ish Gigatons

 

[speedster352]

no you listen to me, you either let talk someone else who is very knowledgeble to the series, or don't talk, because evrytime you debate its always end in a stonewalling,
i have no trust in you

I am not stonewalling I am literally doing the exact thing every else does provide information. Anyway, can you give some examples? I am becoming a better person and as proof, I haven't made any stomp and spite matches. This is about a judge of character but a debate about fictional characters so we can't bring personal feelings into this. Seriously though it won't take too long for the changes to be made maybe a day at most.

Then let's wait for Revisions

Thank you very much

 

[speedster352]

It's Post Time Skip 2nd Demon Mark Meliodas who's gonna be 540ish Gigatons

Post Time Skip Base Meliodas is gonna be 135ish Gigatons

Meliodas has assault mode in this key that can help

 

[VsReferee]

Then let's wait for Revisions

Tbh even if we wait the revisions it would be down to skill and amps and also Grimgor's AP is based on this if i didn't misinterpret it



That would mean he still have the AP advantage if i didn't misunderstood it

Y-you sure?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Then let's wait for Revisions

Are we really gonna give special treatment to Meliodas again? We did that as well for Meliodas vs Durandal.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Then let's wait for Revisions

I doubt it will go throught in short time, this finale has dragged so much and everyone has already tired, so another wait will only kill this fight
Edit: And what @OneBleachHurricane said, and even Popted who hosted the tourney are done with this thing

 

[DemonicDude]

Are we really gonna give special treatment to Meliodas again? We did that as well for Meliodas vs Durandal.

Any character who after going to finale ends up in a stomp situation if he/she can get a chance via a CRT or via changing to a different High 6-C key, Then they shall be granted that.

 

[speedster352]

Any character who after going to finale ends up in a stomp situation if he/she can get a chance via a CRT or via changing to a different High 6-C key, Then they shall be granted that.

I concur

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Y-you sure?

Yea if i didn't misunderstood it Grim is At least 510 gigatons so it prolly lowest AP since he upscale to the feat if i understood it right he could be higher and plus the amps