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Heroes Grand Priest vs Darkrai
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Yes, it is.
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DBH is the Biggest 2-B verse because every action creates 3 Universes? I dunno...
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Grand Priest already has majority votes for over 24 hours. His win should be added and darkrais loss should be added
literally, even without probability manipulation, he has multiple ways to survive getting hit by the balls. Furthermore, finger snapping>an energy ball touching him
literally, even without probability manipulation, he has multiple ways to survive getting hit by the balls. Furthermore, finger snapping>an energy ball touching him
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Yeah another meme is the fact both DBH and Pokémon are the verses closest to 2-A/low 1-C (depending on who you ask) yet so far... anyway that's neither here or there, also long as this Vs thread comes to a fair conclusion; that's all that matters (now I'm off this thread; for reals this time).
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I don't understand how Grand Priest can have over 7 votes and has waited grace period, yet the debate still goes on.
It's really funny how when a Dragon Ball character beats a popular character, there's controvery and refusal to close the thread and add the win/loss
It's really funny how when a Dragon Ball character beats a popular character, there's controvery and refusal to close the thread and add the win/loss
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The debate can still continue even after grace
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I think all the arguments have been made at this point, it just seems that they're being repeated.
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But the results should be added. That's literally the rules of the wiki. When a character has over 7 votes and 24 hours have passed, the match is over.
And again, Darkrai's only win con here is his sleep manipulation, which even if you assume can work against his barriers, probability manipulation, etc. will not hit him because finger snapping in this battle is faster than some dark balls reaching him
And again, Darkrai's only win con here is his sleep manipulation, which even if you assume can work against his barriers, probability manipulation, etc. will not hit him because finger snapping in this battle is faster than some dark balls reaching him
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I didnt say the results shouldnt be added tho
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Eh the Original Spirit will probably become Low 1-C when Kep gets around to itThe Axiom of Virgo said:
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Yeah pretty much goes like this
>Grand Priest Resist Dark Void due to Self Sustanence (possibly contested due to no proof)
>Grand Priest uses his Passive Probability Manip to increase his chances of his attacks working and decrease Darkrai's (Not even sure what's the contest here, I guess people are asking for scans? lol)
>Grand Priest uses Instinctive Reaction via UI and just dodges Dark Void (Pretty much the likelyhood but not accepted by the opposition)
>GP just uses his barrier to protect himself from Darkrai
>GP just starts the match with a ki blast or EE since he's vastly stronger in AP while Darkrai has to charge and throw his Dark Void. (Not even gonna place in the extremely long scaling chain its beyond ridiculous)
Darkrai's only hope is to successfully connect with Dark Void which he will put Grand Priest to sleep and then proceeds to screw GP.
Grand Priest wins this 7/10 at least
>Grand Priest Resist Dark Void due to Self Sustanence (possibly contested due to no proof)
>Grand Priest uses his Passive Probability Manip to increase his chances of his attacks working and decrease Darkrai's (Not even sure what's the contest here, I guess people are asking for scans? lol)
>Grand Priest uses Instinctive Reaction via UI and just dodges Dark Void (Pretty much the likelyhood but not accepted by the opposition)
>GP just uses his barrier to protect himself from Darkrai
>GP just starts the match with a ki blast or EE since he's vastly stronger in AP while Darkrai has to charge and throw his Dark Void. (Not even gonna place in the extremely long scaling chain its beyond ridiculous)
Darkrai's only hope is to successfully connect with Dark Void which he will put Grand Priest to sleep and then proceeds to screw GP.
Grand Priest wins this 7/10 at least
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What's the issue with continuing to argue? It doesn't affect anything except making sure the result is legit.
Darkrai's dark void is via thought in PMD and via a portal thing opening up around the opponent in the main series games. What does Grand Priest's finger snapping do? You said it removes the opponent from the battle, but unless it's to the edge of DBH's multiverse or something Darkrai can come back from that.
Darkrai's dark void is via thought in PMD and via a portal thing opening up around the opponent in the main series games. What does Grand Priest's finger snapping do? You said it removes the opponent from the battle, but unless it's to the edge of DBH's multiverse or something Darkrai can come back from that.
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Is no one acknowledging that I long ago retracted my vote for GP?
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I didn't realize Grand Priest was omniscient or precognitive and could just know that he has to throw his opponent billions upon billions of universes away to win.
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EE vs BFR
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Doesnt matter. Those votes have very skeptical reasoning and are being put into question. So no, nothing is getting added yet.Zenkaibattery1 said:
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The world of void is Low 2-C in scope
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The so called reasoning goes much much more in-depth than that, but yes, its skeptical.AwkguyDB said:
Especially the probability manipulation, which how its being treated here, is riddled with NLF.
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Even without the probability manip, GP can dodge the Dark Void thanks to UI.
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There is no depth, GP either casualy dodge the one thing Darkrai has to win and one shot with almost anything he has or he put up a barrier when he see he can't dodge and that's assuming he can't just blast Darkrai's attack to begin with, GP has a massive advantage in pretty much everything and Darkrai having the Void wincon is the only thing stopping this from being a stomp, that's what the huge majority of people have agreed on here.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
And now grace has ended and GP got more votes while the opposition brought up no new argument so it simply should be added.
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Even if it's dozens of dozens of projectiles? Or you know, thought based?
No one's given any actual explanation for this.
No one's given any actual explanation for this.
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Then the Real World since he's the bridge between the Multiverse and RW for Beat
Also Low 2-C in scope.
Also Low 2-C in scope.
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Dozens of dozens of projectiles was never all that impressive, Vegeta blasting away at Freezer had hundreds of explosions, it doesn't make it somehow undodgeable.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
And once again, even if we say it's too much to dodge, GP just put up a barrier, even Goku, who is so inferior to GP it isn't even funny turned his kamehameha into a pseudo barrier at the last second.
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Except why would GP do that when Darkrai is an ant in comparison, and ki sensing would show that?
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Dude I would 100% agree with you if there was not three things wrong with it being treated as NLFProfessorKukui4Life said:
1. It's Passive
2. It's explained how it is used in battle literally in it's description
Passive Probability Manipulation (The Grand Priests Miracle CI is constantly at the highest rating, making it so all his attacks have the highest probability of landing on his opponent and that his opponents abilities will always fail to land on him) how is that vague or a NLF if he is the highest "In Game/Universe"
3. Grand Priest IS STRONGER THAN DARKRAI, so strong that he can just one shot without using the Miracle CI, all he has to do is hit Darkrai. All this is doing is just increasing his already high chance of one shotting first before Darkrai could even get off Dark Void.
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In all seriousness, Darkrai has no way to win, GP can one shot, and his attacks will always Hit because Miracle CI, it also makes Darkrai's attacks always fail to land, Darkrai has no chance of Victory
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Why would GP let himself be hit by anything when we saw Whis dodging everything thrown at him by Broly who is less than an ant compared to him ?
Also Info analysis.
Info analysis only tells him that he has an attack called Dark Void. It doesn't tell him the flavor text. And Whis was only dodging. He wasn't throwing up barriers or nullifying ki blasts with his own. When has GP ever used barriers like 17 anyway?
Also Info analysis.
Info analysis only tells him that he has an attack called Dark Void. It doesn't tell him the flavor text. And Whis was only dodging. He wasn't throwing up barriers or nullifying ki blasts with his own. When has GP ever used barriers like 17 anyway?
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Well that changes everythingDragomer said:
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>Info Analysis
Which is also useless. It only tells you the name of the moves, not what they do or how they are applied. This was pointed out before.
> It's explained how it is used in battle literally in it's descriptio
And thats the problem. "Always miss". Thats the NLF in this case. It's as legit as any typical game mechanic with a move having perfect accuracy. Even then, obviously anything that says will "always do x or y" is vague that isn't to be taken literally.
>Grand Priest IS STRONGER THAN DARKRAI
Strength has nothing to do with being able to suddenly have all attacks miss when targeting you.
Also, now that I think about it, GP dodging (if he should actually do so) would just have Darkrai use the thought based dark void and make it a huge certainity, so im not even sure how dodging is an actual argument in the first place now.
Which is also useless. It only tells you the name of the moves, not what they do or how they are applied. This was pointed out before.
> It's explained how it is used in battle literally in it's descriptio
And thats the problem. "Always miss". Thats the NLF in this case. It's as legit as any typical game mechanic with a move having perfect accuracy. Even then, obviously anything that says will "always do x or y" is vague that isn't to be taken literally.
>Grand Priest IS STRONGER THAN DARKRAI
Strength has nothing to do with being able to suddenly have all attacks miss when targeting you.
Also, now that I think about it, GP dodging (if he should actually do so) would just have Darkrai use the thought based dark void and make it a huge certainity, so im not even sure how dodging is an actual argument in the first place now.
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