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Heroes Grand Priest profile

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The probability manipulation thing is what i saw being contested, no one really contested the rest TBH.

Also since power level are used to determine speed in DBH, wouldn't he be reducing their speed intsead of their power ?
 
@Drag

AKM asked for scans for the other stuff

@proud

no, he doesn't have one in Heroes. Well he does but he's never shown needing it
 
It is always activated yes, although he has never needed to show it off because no one but Zeno has been shown to touch him
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
It is always activated yes, although he has never needed to show it off because no one but Zeno has been shown to touch him
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Then it should be mentioned to all profiles if staff agrees to it.
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
@Drag
AKM asked for scans for the other stuff

@proud

no, he doesn't have one in Heroes. Well he does but he's never shown needing it
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AKM asked scans for pretty much everything though, including probability manipulation and AP, though scailing from Xeno Goku probably works.
 
Uhhh, I have provided scans above lmao for stuff outside canon DB which are in his canon profile

I think AP is self-explanatory because he is the grand priest
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Uhhh, I have provided scans above lmao for stuff outside canon DB which are in his canon profile
I think AP is self-explanatory because he is the grand priest
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The only scans i see are those about life force, information analysis and resistance to the demon god stuff.
 
ProudLearner said:
Rocker1189 said:
instinctive reaction is passive by definition else it wont be instinctive.
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In Goku's case it's not.
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It's passive in his UI form, the Angels are just always in UI mode, that's their base form.
 
@Drag

'll only show scans for the stuff outside of canon for obvious reasons

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Yamcha_(Reincarnated)

I can't access the yamcha manga but here's the Soul Manipulation (Yamcha manga is in the DBH world much like every other DB media which is also explained in the fandom wiki). Whis and Vados pull the soul out of the person in the real world and swap it with yamcha's and then swap them back to their original bodies. GP scales to this.

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-55/chapter/19651

Immortality and Self-Sustenance 1, 2 and 3 comes from the Super manga which is a timeline in Heroes.

Information Analysis is the basic xenoverse/heroes ability of checking the opponents stats

https://imgur.com/a/Y0pvS7g

Life-force absorption

https://imgur.com/a/3RwjeDa

Resistance to Demon God mind control/corruption and magic, etc.

https://imgur.com/a/96YOVH4

The Gods can create pocket dimensions. I don't have the scan where Whis said he made the dimension inside his staff but this is basically the same thing.

The statistics reduction is scaling from Goku, Whis and basically every other character. It is such a basic ability it wouldn't make sense if everyone could do it but the strongest couldn't.

https://imgur.com/a/uQeL38i

Gods immune to 21's waves = resistance to power null, memory erasure and soul manipulation. Also scales to Goku, Vegeta and the time patrols resistance to Shrooms soul manipulation

Only scaling here is from Whis and one from Goku. GP scales to Whis because it's agreed the angles have the same abilities. The resistance to demon god magic is a God Ki user thing, not just Goku
 
Dragomer said:
It's passive in his UI form, the Angels are just always in UI mode, that's their base form.
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I know that. I just wanted to make it clear. I like profiles to look neat and organized which GP (Heroes) is not.
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
@Drag
'll only show scans for the stuff outside of canon for obvious reasons

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Yamcha_(Reincarnated)

I can't access the yamcha manga but here's the Soul Manipulation (Yamcha manga is in the DBH world much like every other DB media which is also explained in the fandom wiki). Whis and Vados pull the soul out of the person in the real world and swap it with yamcha's and then swap them back to their original bodies. GP scales to this.

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-55/chapter/19651

Immortality and Self-Sustenance 1, 2 and 3 comes from the Super manga which is a timeline in Heroes.

Information Analysis is the basic xenoverse/heroes ability of checking the opponents stats

https://imgur.com/a/Y0pvS7g

Life-force absorption

https://imgur.com/a/3RwjeDa

Resistance to Demon God mind control/corruption and magic, etc.

https://imgur.com/a/96YOVH4

The Gods can create pocket dimensions. I don't have the scan where Whis said he made the dimension inside his staff but this is basically the same thing.

The statistics reduction is scaling from Goku, Whis and basically every other character. It is such a basic ability it wouldn't make sense if everyone could do it but the strongest couldn't.

https://imgur.com/a/uQeL38i

Gods immune to 21's waves = resistance to power null, memory erasure and soul manipulation. Also scales to Goku, Vegeta and the time patrols resistance to Shrooms soul manipulation

Only scaling here is from Whis and one from Goku. GP scales to Whis because it's agreed the angles have the same abilities. The resistance to demon god magic is a God Ki user thing, not just Goku
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It still doesn't explain the 'passive probability manipulation' thing, Xeno Goku doesn't have passive probability manipulation so it can't be scaled from him.
 
You're the one that asked to tell you if there was other stuff that needed scans.
 
There's a seperate thread for probability manipulation yes. I'll focus on everything else outside of canon here.
 
So what are the summarised conclusions here?
 
Antvasima said:
So what are the summarised conclusions here?
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For now, OP is posting the scans needed and those he posted are fine for what he wanted them to prove IMO, not all scans have been posted yet though.
 
Okay. That seems fine then.
 
Only scans I haven't done yet are for Holy Manipulation and the passive probability Manipulation which is being dealt with in another thread.

Summoning is self-expalantory and isn't compact applicable in the first place so that can be stayed or removed, makes no difference.
 
The passive probability manipulation isn't being dealt with in another thread at all, it's this thread that matters and was reopened to provide stuff for all of it.
 
All the abilities seem good to me. I agree with the profile being made and that the abilities listed are accurate.
 
@AKM

What should we do here?
 
Sound fine to me since the passive probability manipulation is seemingly scailing from Whis and that was the only real point i saw people talk about and we have Ryu vouching (he's on the knowledgeable member list IIRC) for it and he knows more about DBH than me at least.
 
Rocker1189 said:
I still have not seen evidence of miracle CI being more than just a game mechanic.
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The game mechanics thing was already brough up and addressed in previous thread in relation to DBH at large, it was already decided that due to the nature of DBH, it was fair game, that's why info analysis is on every DBH profile pretty much.
 
These seem fine.

Where is the thread discussing probability manip and holy manip?

You must also link all the relevant evidences/scans along with the justifications in the profile to avoid confusion in future.
 
The game mechanics thing was already brough up and addressed in previous thread in relation to DBH at large, it was already decided that due to the nature of DBH, it was fair game, that's why info analysis is on every DBH profile pretty much.

Except it is being questioned again. In a newer thread. Maybe a thread needs to be made about game mechanics in general because simply put game mechanics should never be a part of a verse profile unless if the verse literally uses game mechanics in story.
 
It's being questioned without bringing up anything new that would contradict the multiple previous decision about what constitute game mechanics or not for DBH so meh, that's like saying we need to redo that whole low-2-C argument whenever someone feel like it.
 
Dragomer said:
It's being questioned without bringing up anything new that would contradict the multiple previous decision about what constitute game mechanics or not for DBH so meh, that's like saying we need to redo that whole low-2-C argument whenever someone feel like it.
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I mean that is literally what is done for every verse when their ratings, abilities or anything else is brought up for discussion.

So again, why exactly is a game mechanic being used as a canon ability.
 
Because Heroes is canonically a game? That's like saying we should remove game mechanics from SAO profiles.
 
Ionliosite said:
Because Heroes is canonically a game? That's like saying we should remove game mechanics from SAO profiles.
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Except it is not, because the game mechanics in SAO last I checked are canon to the story. When has miracle CI ever been mentioned outside of a tutorial or purely game part of DBH for example.
 
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