- 10,720
- 4,812
wouldn't he be at least High 3-A considering reality overwrite beat GER
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Heaven Ascension DIO and Jotaro: Major Downgrade and Revisions
- Thread starter DMB_1
- Start date
- Status
- 10,720
- 4,812
yeah, that's what i mean. He can't be downgraded to MSS/Large Star because of that. And if we're talking about changing his physical tier to that much, why is this a downgrade?
- 19,467
- 3,906
They want to change the 2-A AP Reality Overwrite has as anything its done even close to that level is done with hax which doesnt effect you AP tier (I think).
- 15,419
- 5,012
Be more clear than that. He can be downgraded because he's not 2-A, having the potency of a hax at whatever level has nothing to do with the tier a character may have. Which is why GER shouldn't even be "High 3-A via Hax". This isn't just about DIO's physical tier, he's not 2-A in power either. Him getting downgraded to MSS is a downgrade as he's currently 2-A.ZephyrosOmega said:
- 5,411
- 740
I mean Power Null comes from RO
- 15,665
- 11,383
Yeah, if Powernull gave you a tier, then Warhammer has 1-B fodder.
- 3,635
- 257
I think 3A or High 3A would be fine, tbh.
- 12,212
- 12,186
Makes no sense to have TWOH rated lower then Stands who are logically below him, like GER for example, as well as making no sense for 4-A hax to beat High 3-A hax, the only Stand above him was Star Platinum with the Over Heaven power
- 20,504
- 1,587
GER is not High 3-A. That should have been removed long time ago. GER is tierless, cus 0 reset is not AP.
- 12,212
- 12,186
GER returned to zero King Crimson time skip, saying its featless is downplay
- 20,504
- 1,587
Not featless, tierless. 0 reset cannot be trasnlated into AP. Same reason people Dio doesn't have a tier for his time stop, cus it's just hax, doesn't translate to AP.BlackDarkness679 said:
- 9,249
- 2,710
- Thread starter
- #99
GER having High 3-A Tier via Time Manipulation is nonsense, otherwise, anyone with time-stop would have it.
If anything, Diavolo would deserve it far more than GER because he actually erases time, while GER simply reversed the action of doing so. But again, King Crimson's ability is just hax.
If anything, Diavolo would deserve it far more than GER because he actually erases time, while GER simply reversed the action of doing so. But again, King Crimson's ability is just hax.
- 12,212
- 12,186
@DMB1 No one said that
@Firephoenixearl featless or tierless doesnt matter, saying that is pure downplay at its best, also thats not even a good comparison, plus the return to zero hax affected a whole universe warped and skipped, you realize hax can have different levels of power?
@Firephoenixearl featless or tierless doesnt matter, saying that is pure downplay at its best, also thats not even a good comparison, plus the return to zero hax affected a whole universe warped and skipped, you realize hax can have different levels of power?
- 12,212
- 12,186
Hax can translate to AP, depends on the hax though, time stop doesnt fall in that category, thats more for range then anything
- 9,249
- 2,710
- Thread starter
- #102
Except for the fact that it would be true if that were to be the caseBlackDarkness679 said:
@Firephoenixearl featless or tierless doesnt matter, saying that is pure downplay at its best, also thats not even a good comparison, plus the return to zero hax affected a whole universe warped and skipped, you realize hax can have different levels of power?
What you are saying makes no sense: GER does have a feat, yes, but it shouldn't translate to AP. It's just Causality Manipulation. And yes, Time-Stops can stop time on a universal scale. Does that give their users High 3-A AP? No, it doesn't.
- 20,504
- 1,587
>Hax can translate to AP
Exactly what im saying. Stuff like reality warping, EE, Creation etc all can translate to AP (in most cases at least). GER just rewinds time. Im not downplaying. The feat of undoing that is legit sure, but that's not AP. AP means that you can attack with that much potency and GER can't. He can just reverse stuff.
Exactly what im saying. Stuff like reality warping, EE, Creation etc all can translate to AP (in most cases at least). GER just rewinds time. Im not downplaying. The feat of undoing that is legit sure, but that's not AP. AP means that you can attack with that much potency and GER can't. He can just reverse stuff.
- 12,212
- 12,186
What you are saying makes no sense: GER does have a feat, yes, but it shouldn't translate to AP. It's just Causality Manipulation. And yes, Time-Stops can stop time on a universal scale. Does that give their users High 3-A AP? No, it doesn't.
What you are saying makes no sense at all, time stop doesnt translate to AP, do you hear what you are even talking lol
What you are saying makes no sense at all, time stop doesnt translate to AP, do you hear what you are even talking lol
- 12,212
- 12,186
I seen profiles in the past being rated a certain tier only because of a hax being on a certain scale of power, the profile of Giorno says even if its not destroying the universe or anything of that sort, it still nulls it and gets the High 3-A for that, so sorry but just cuz you think it shouldnt be there doesnt mean it needs removal, also where was discussed that it should be removed in the first place?Firephoenixearl said:
- 20,504
- 1,587
- 15,665
- 11,383
And give Pucci Low 2-C via, wait... nevermind.
- 12,212
- 12,186
@Firephoenixearl i dont see anything on the 1st character for such a thing by giving it a look through
Also when it was agreed?And again as said earlier, makes no sense for a hax not to have a scale of power, if GER ability wasnt on the scale that King Crimson warps and skips time, it wouldnt have worked, for example you cant say a 5-A hax beats something that is performed on a bigger scale,it wont overcome it
Also when it was agreed?And again as said earlier, makes no sense for a hax not to have a scale of power, if GER ability wasnt on the scale that King Crimson warps and skips time, it wouldnt have worked, for example you cant say a 5-A hax beats something that is performed on a bigger scale,it wont overcome it
- 12,212
- 12,186
And its just via hax, most of you act like he can punch with its strength that hard
Making GER tierless is wrong
Making GER tierless is wrong
- 19,467
- 3,906
It really depends on the hax and how it works, some hax can give you AP but not all, in fact most hax doesnt but as I said it depends on how it works.
- 3,635
- 257
GER should stay High 3A because the explanation was already stated on his profile....at least until we get a proper debunking of that entire slate of evidence.
- 10,649
- 1,590
Dio mentioned that The World's timestop would eventually last "as long as I want."
- 9,249
- 2,710
- Thread starter
- #115
Fine, you got that,
I guess it's probably Resistance to/Power Nullification against Probability Manipulation
I guess it's probably Resistance to/Power Nullification against Probability Manipulation
- 12,212
- 12,186
In part 3 he said it that eventually it will increase more and more as it goes on, maybe if he lived after part 3 he could have been able toThe God Of Procrastination said:
- 12,212
- 12,186
Its just a possibility, we saw that the time stop increased in duration, but not like it matters now
- 10,649
- 1,590
Scan/Video?
17:30.
17:30.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
