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Hazbin Hotel: The Reckoning of Immortality type 5

Cherubs dont have the innate Angel abilities they are the weakest race. Same reason why Imps arent immortal like other races
 
so bring them up please, i haven't seen them before, the only ones i'm aware of the are the ones in the OP and only one of those count
 
Cherubs dont have the innate Angel abilities they are the weakest race. Same reason why Imps arent immortal like other races
It is currently accepted that angels in general have this invulnerability/type 5, without making any type of distinction. You don't see "exorcist angels have type 5/invulnerability" anywhere on the pages.

The immortality of sinners is something said and accepted as exclusive to them. Something recognized on the pages.

If you want to change the justification on the page to just exorcist angels or something like that, then make a crt.
 
Ars Goetia and Sins also have it. You are wrong, the weak classes simply lack Immortalities
Then it should be removed from them.

You do NOT half-ass things like that... also, no, they don't. The immortalities are only under Sinners in Demon Physiology. As it should be.
so bring them up please, i haven't seen them before, the only ones i'm aware of the are the ones in the OP and only one of those count
Oh, I don't know, maybe the entire reason Sera was even worried about a Hell Uprising in the first place which caused the exterminations to start?! But I guess since all angels are invincible she was just a complete moron, huh?
being staggered is not grounds for removing it, invulnerability protects from damage, otherwise a lot of invulnerable characters would lose said hax for being pushed around and being staggered, like sonic or even lord english, adam took no visible damage from the fight while he was not taking it serious
man, I guess Adam was just so deep in thought in the middle of combat, it's just a coincidence he rubbed his chin thinking about it after getting hit!
the whole episode made it clear that even fodder angels were impossible to harm even with overlords, requiring specific weapons capable of also bypassing immortality and killing souls, a single scene contradicting it is not enough to throw it to the trash
However, another major plot point, that being Sera's worries, apsolutely are! In this case, all you have are a bunch of statements and no feats, while there's at least 2 anti-feats, an opposing plot point which kills the complaint of an entire episode being wrong on my side.

And don't even get me started on Cherubs, ya'll apply that shit to every angel with how it's worded! There's an entire episode of Helluva dedicated fighting angels with this supposed Invulnerability!
 
man, I guess Adam was just so deep in thought in the middle of combat, it's just a coincidence he rubbed his chin thinking about it after getting hit!
guy was philosyphying mid-fight,that's crazy
also,wouldn't cherubins not have invincibility because they are like,low tier or something?
 
Yeah, totally in-character for the type of Adam guy fr fr! He was thinking about how to solve liar paradox or how to end global warming… (oh wait no that’s Earth problem)
what's a liar paradox?
solution to stop global warming:
step 1:kill all humans
step 2:???
step 3:profit.
 
Then it should be removed from them.

You do NOT half-ass things like that... also, no, they don't. The immortalities are only under Sinners in Demon Physiology. As it should be.
Show says Ars Goetia and Sins unkillable without Angelic Weapons.
 
also, wouldn't cherubins not have invincibility because they are like, low tier or something?
You'd have to prove that, which is the shitty thing. I think they shouldn't be counted, but they are general statements.
Show says Ars Goetia and Sins unkillable without Angelic Weapons.
Then uh... get that onto their profiles. Probably as just sharing Sinner Immortalities(Those being 1, 2, and 3).

You can do it in the same CRT as the other thingI suggested you do a CRT for that I've already forgotten
 
Then uh... get that onto their profiles. Probably as just sharing Sinner Immortalities(Those being 1, 2, and 3).

 

I meant Demon Physiology

(BTW when are you reqorking Helluva profiles? They uh... they need it.)
 
I agree with removing Type 5 (thank god someone removed it, I wanted to but was procrastinating too much), I can agree nor disagree with invulnerability in good faith so I'll stay neutral regarding this

Angelic weapons will be pretty interesting in future Vs Threads since after this they should be able to one shot anyone of a similar AP to the demon's physicals, Vaggie would also upscale by a lot more now as well

Now let's wait for Season 2 to mess up everything regarding this and cause even more confusion
 
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me.


So I'm gonna rough it up.

To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have support. At all. The only thing remotely pointing to it is the whole Angelic weapons are needed to kill them thing, and that can just be because they are ridiculously hard to properly kill to the point nobody has been able to do it. There's not even a statement indicating type 5, the fact it's gotten away with all of this for so long is a miracle.

Obviously, same verse same as the first for Angel Immortality and they don't get type 5 either.

And then there's Invulnerability. I'm killing it, so let's go through everything.
  • Razzle and Dazzle are Charlie's guards, heavily implying Lucifer thinks that there are things in Hell capable of actually harming her, while she's a weird case, she still has Invulnerability on her profile, so she's here.
  • Adam gets staggered by Alastor, he should be Senator Armstrong-ing that shit but he's forced to take a couple steps back. It doesn't really hurt him or injure him, but it's still notable
  • Lute has plenty of examples, such as her face being cut through her mask and being otherwise physically damaged by rubble, of everything here, she's definitely the most blatant issue.

But then why would it be repeatedly stated that Angelic Weapons are needed to harm them?​

Simple, really. Angels are just more durable than demons. You need to remember that almost everyone on the show is either an Overlord or can trade blows with a power-based one, the general populace are not that strong. Exterminators don't really go after Overlords before the season finale, and the only time they did they ******* DIED. Carmilla has Angelic weapons sure but that doenst change the fact that she's WELL above your average sinner.
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Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me.


So I'm gonna rough it up.

To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have support. At all. The only thing remotely pointing to it is the whole Angelic weapons are needed to kill them thing, and that can just be because they are ridiculously hard to properly kill to the point nobody has been able to do it. There's not even a statement indicating type 5, the fact it's gotten away with all of this for so long is a miracle.

Obviously, same verse same as the first for Angel Immortality and they don't get type 5 either.

And then there's Invulnerability. I'm killing it, so let's go through everything.
  • Razzle and Dazzle are Charlie's guards, heavily implying Lucifer thinks that there are things in Hell capable of actually harming her, while she's a weird case, she still has Invulnerability on her profile, so she's here.
  • Adam gets staggered by Alastor, he should be Senator Armstrong-ing that shit but he's forced to take a couple steps back. It doesn't really hurt him or injure him, but it's still notable
  • Lute has plenty of examples, such as her face being cut through her mask and being otherwise physically damaged by rubble, of everything here, she's definitely the most blatant issue.

But then why would it be repeatedly stated that Angelic Weapons are needed to harm them?​

Simple, really. Angels are just more durable than demons. You need to remember that almost everyone on the show is either an Overlord or can trade blows with a power-based one, the general populace are not that strong. Exterminators don't really go after Overlords before the season finale, and the only time they did they ******* DIED. Carmilla has Angelic weapons sure but that doenst change the fact that she's WELL above your average sinner.
bump
 
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me.


So I'm gonna rough it up.

To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have support. At all. The only thing remotely pointing to it is the whole Angelic weapons are needed to kill them thing, and that can just be because they are ridiculously hard to properly kill to the point nobody has been able to do it. There's not even a statement indicating type 5, the fact it's gotten away with all of this for so long is a miracle.

Obviously, same verse same as the first for Angel Immortality and they don't get type 5 either.

And then there's Invulnerability. I'm killing it, so let's go through everything.
  • Razzle and Dazzle are Charlie's guards, heavily implying Lucifer thinks that there are things in Hell capable of actually harming her, while she's a weird case, she still has Invulnerability on her profile, so she's here.
  • Adam gets staggered by Alastor, he should be Senator Armstrong-ing that shit but he's forced to take a couple steps back. It doesn't really hurt him or injure him, but it's still notable
  • Lute has plenty of examples, such as her face being cut through her mask and being otherwise physically damaged by rubble, of everything here, she's definitely the most blatant issue.

But then why would it be repeatedly stated that Angelic Weapons are needed to harm them?​

Simple, really. Angels are just more durable than demons. You need to remember that almost everyone on the show is either an Overlord or can trade blows with a power-based one, the general populace are not that strong. Exterminators don't really go after Overlords before the season finale, and the only time they did they ******* DIED. Carmilla has Angelic weapons sure but that doenst change the fact that she's WELL above your average sinner.
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vivziepop should have been more consistent with that rule of "angels can't be killed" or "demons can only be killed/harmed" by angelic weapons, since she has been the one that technically made that rule & had to properly portray said thing, both consistently & written well.

instead we got mid show & shion.
 
vivziepop should have been more consistent with that rule of "angels can't be killed"
We never saw Angel killed by a Demon without Angelic Weapons
"demons can only be killed/harmed" by angelic weapons, since she has been the one that technically made that rule & had to properly portray said thing, both consistently & written well.
Demons can be harmed and killed without Angelic Weapons, but they'll just come back lol. AWs kill them permanentally though
 
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me.


So I'm gonna rough it up.

To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have support. At all. The only thing remotely pointing to it is the whole Angelic weapons are needed to kill them thing, and that can just be because they are ridiculously hard to properly kill to the point nobody has been able to do it. There's not even a statement indicating type 5, the fact it's gotten away with all of this for so long is a miracle.

Obviously, same verse same as the first for Angel Immortality and they don't get type 5 either.

And then there's Invulnerability. I'm killing it, so let's go through everything.
  • Razzle and Dazzle are Charlie's guards, heavily implying Lucifer thinks that there are things in Hell capable of actually harming her, while she's a weird case, she still has Invulnerability on her profile, so she's here.
  • Adam gets staggered by Alastor, he should be Senator Armstrong-ing that shit but he's forced to take a couple steps back. It doesn't really hurt him or injure him, but it's still notable
  • Lute has plenty of examples, such as her face being cut through her mask and being otherwise physically damaged by rubble, of everything here, she's definitely the most blatant issue.

But then why would it be repeatedly stated that Angelic Weapons are needed to harm them?​

Simple, really. Angels are just more durable than demons. You need to remember that almost everyone on the show is either an Overlord or can trade blows with a power-based one, the general populace are not that strong. Exterminators don't really go after Overlords before the season finale, and the only time they did they ******* DIED. Carmilla has Angelic weapons sure but that doenst change the fact that she's WELL above your average sinner.
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