Haxxed AF Future Civs: Latveria vs. Composite Civ

[Dargoo_Faust]

Alright, let's do this. When I was making the composite civ profile, this was one of the first reccomendations for a match.

This is the Future Civ with all weapons/tech right before the transcendence ending.

This is Latveria with all weapons/tech, however Doctor Doom and the Doombots are sitting this one out. However, Doom is allowed to lead/advise his country.

For purposes of simplicity, speed is equalized for troops and ships.

Battle takes place on Alpha Centauri's homeplanet. Each civ is occupying half the planet, and aims to obliterate the other at any cost.

Let's go!

Composite Civ -

Latveria -

Incon -

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm going with the meier's civilizaiton via fusionism and math manipulation

 

[DMUA]

>Math manipulation

Zach

How does throwing calculators at people help win a war

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's not what math manipulation means

 

[Wokistan]

Zach you need to stop just voting via hax with no further explanation especially on something like math manip. How it helps or any more explanation would be nice.

I kinda want to know what the context of Doom just kinda leaving his country to defend itself is, its a pretty funny idea compared to canon.

From what's on the files that I can see the armaments of Latveria seem more impressive, though idk how effective they'll be without the leadership of Doom.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Ironic how you say "That's not what math manipulation means" when you yourself throws around the ability without even explaining how it would work here.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

For reference, this is where the Math Manip comes from.

https://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Nonlinear_Mathematics_(SMAC)

 

[Wokistan]

That doesn't seem so much as manipulation as it is the discovery of a new form. Either way its not something that seems applicable for fighting beyond allowing them to make good stuff.

 

[Schnee_One]

So it isn't applicable

Noice

Regardless, Imma wait here

 

[Wokistan]

Is Doom not participating as in he won't personally fight, or is he just not allowed to lead Latveria in general? That's pretty important.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'll specify that Doom is leading the country, however he cannot participate in combat.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'll specify that Doom is leading the country, however he cannot participate in combat.

Holy shit. If that's the case, Latveria easily wins.

 

[Schnee_One]

"Ah! A battle of Wits I see! Of our own Civilizations! Yes! This shall be the fight for our future!"

I can't be the only one thinking Doom will make a clone of some kind

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

https://alphacentauri.gamepedia.com/Probability_Mechanics

Also, here's where probability manip comes from. They can predict the future, as well as make a "Probability Sheath", which I'm assuming prevents progectiles from hitting them through probability hax

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"Battle takes place on alpha centauri"

which means that the fight technically takes place on top of Sid Meier's one...

 

[Phoenix821]

I was gonna make this you beat me to it.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Honestly, the biggest boon for the composite civ is weaponized mindhax that, on a base level, erases minds. They also have passive fields that mindhax anything that tresspasses them. They also resist mindhax, being ablo to take psi-based attacks.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

But does the Civ have genocide Gandhi?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

But does the Civ have genocide Gandhi?

This is the most important question

 

[Elizhaa]

bump

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Gandhi nukes them both. OVO.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Depending on how this works, Latveria can just time travel to CC back when they weren't so advanced and utterly body them

other than that, i don't see Latveria able to do much

 

[Stillwinston]

Latveria could win via time travel depending on how effective the CC leader is with predicting the future. I'm personally leaning on CC taking this one, as HI3 said Latveria can't do much besides time travel and CC may catch onto it and just try to destroy as quick as they can.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ohhhhh, Still has a good point. Time Travel is explicitly impossble in Alpha Centauri, despite the insane control over time the Civ has.

As for the probability predictions, its rather vague, but here's the quotes:

With operating systems powered by Pre-sentient Algorithms (D5), computers finally gain sufficient processing power to unravel the mysteries of Probability Mechanics. With this breakthrough, scientists can accurately predict many seemingly random events.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Ok then, CC bodies kinda hard

 

[DMUA]

Alternatively


Latveria travels to the stone age and vaporizes it's origins


Though, then again, CC can still blitzkrieg and stop them from taking such an opportunity.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

You can't time travel on Alpha Centari for some reason

 

[DMUA]

I feel like that's more a technological limitation then a property of a Planet, but, if that's really the case, then question is, who's invading who?


If it's the Civs going to earth to attack Latveria, it'll still work, if it's Latveria attacking the Civs, then, it'll be up in the air.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

They're occupying two sides of the same planet in this situation.

 

[DMUA]

but which planet

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The planet the Civ lives on in Alpha Centauri.

 

[DMUA]

So Latveria is also there?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yes.

Making it an Interstellar battle with speed equalized would be weird, and both civs wouldn't be able to use their weapons at their full potential.

 

[Promestein]

Do they have access to all of Doom's technology because that includes devices that allow him to manipulate reality like a chessboard and make retroactive changes to history

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

They should have access to all the tech that Latveria has acess to, if that's part of it, than it probably needs to be added to the profile.

If it's an ability of Doom himself, he's only acting as a leader here, not a combatant.

 

[Promestein]

It's not an ability of Doom himself, it's just a thing he's made.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Hm. Not sure why it's not on the Civ page then.

Although Latveria's page does seem lacking; it may be missing a good deal of tech.

 

[Promestein]

It probably is, but I didn't wanna give it everything Doom could do with tech.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I suppose anything Doom himself has exclusively used should be out, then, as he's not actively participating outside of commanding his country.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Bump.