Havok's Blasts

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

After looking up a respect thread, i found quite a few consistent feats over the years to put his blasts level at an tier 5 to tier 4 range level.

Here he is breaking theHulk's ribs by his own words , and even slowing him down another instance . He's also dealt with the Hulk here, but i am unsure what level of power he was at during this instance.

What do you guys think ?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

The Hulk was not treated as anywhere near his maximum power level when Havok fought him.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

... Everytime ?

 

[Antvasima]

The first time they met, the Hulk was barely able to lift a rather small piece of a hill, and Peter David never presented the merged Hulk as particularly strong. I think that we should preferably scale from Havok's destructive feats instead.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Okay. I'll see if i can find any. I found those in a respect thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I found a few ...

Here is one. Didn't Havok become the Nexus of All Realities at one point ? Just a little question... But Shouldn't he scale to that while he was one , in other words, 2-A [ via scaling to the Mkyran Crystal and the Phoenix Force ] ?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. I have not read Mutant X. It is infamous as an absolutely horrible comicbook.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

... Really ?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

>Havok as Nexus of All Realities

Isn't that the storyline in which an AU Beyonder was going to destroy the multiverses and someone used the power of the Nexus to fight against him?

I only read some issues for Beyonder research.

It is a pretty dumb story. But it made for the third time Beyonder transformed into a woman;

 

[Antvasima]

Yes.

Anyway, you can ask to get that feat calculated here:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/781841

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That "Someone" was Havok. Anyways...

I see... Is it stupid enough to not consider as offical ?

I will do so later . I am doing a Blog here and playing Online Multiplayer for Uncharted simultaneously . It's not easy..

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It is canon to the Marvel Multiverse, although it's a pretty dumb storyline.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I thought it was canon...

 

[Antvasima]

I think that the Beyonder was in an alliance with Dracula in that story.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I thought it was the Goblin Force ( Madelyne Pryor ) posing as Beyonder though...

 

[Antvasima]

The Goblin Queen was also involved, if I remember correctly.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14993381

Here's a respect thread.

His best feat seems to be containing a "miniature black hole" (Not a real black hole) which would destroy a planet.

Is Havok supposed to be an Omega-level mutant or not?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I thought it was the Goblin Force ( Madelyne Pryor ) posing as Beyonder though...

It was actually Beyonder crossdressing as her.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

OH... Uhmm..

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Sorry for double posting ... But How powerful was this version of Beyonder ? Reason why i am saying it is because it would scale to the other Nexus' if it's higher than 2-A.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

At least 2-A. "Was going to destroy every multiverse", or a collection of multiverses with infinite universes. Which is just a higher-end version of 2-A.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Anyway, I'm finding it difficult to quantify Havok's powers because they work on Absorption.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I see...

Can you help me out with Pandora ?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, maybe we could use the feat from the image posted earlier as a standard level, and 5-B via power absorption, due to preventing the destruction of a planet?

 

[Antvasima]

Pandora is off-topic.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Sorry. I was going to make a thread about it, but wanted to let him now in this thread before making it.

.... But anyways i am fine with that. I will send the feat to the Offical Calculations Request Thread.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Anyway, best feats:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/HbBPX8Ky3D...GRQgRgMtbTSqx0ndZIT6xQfYOKW70TlEshP_YgL=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/L_l3Df4glL...2lXWZn6VzBuE4Wu_lYOSRXOdHdGyQ0jnH41FAMD=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/tciYfBsEHS...02jYOdY4KT-1nIqMFPjShRFxa_z3usYgqW27Vxu=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/N0P3vF-Dyd...ej_zeS0xJlD92MCLMdqMwTTctk9Z4kNTnX3HQJE=s1600

Gets thrown into a star, survives, and absorbs enough power to beat up Vulcan.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/DXIR3k6vdL...laPG0Q5vj3PX7ENYwscnmZSwWkmhrMxmKtZfzJe=s1600

^ Higher-quality version of the feat Seed wants calced.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/KIWghCiS2E...DGXG8qifKWZxlKor4OJvsPBPSqMQPSmrkfmGZAu=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/wnuQouYw4A...dCjFXhNvoCsMgY6wLvavXPRLTN5HoHfYAlHUs0M=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/dAd_IHDu1H...4xYKFFmM3VHFOPiRKjpOApBSICw2do5RRDNJWrj=s1600

Contains a "black hole" that would have swallowed a planet.

http://imgur.com/a/OpUFQ

Also this.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well, maybe we could use the feat from the image posted earlier as a standard level, and 5-B via power absorption, due to preventing the destruction of a planet?

Havok's baseline power doesn't seem that great, but he has multiple instances of Absorbing energies to much higher levels. He's probably not 5-B normally, but if he were to fight a 5-B he could just absorb his powers and amp himself.

This is what I'm getting.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if he has a feat of matching Vulcan, who matched Black Bolt, and fought Gladiator, that may be useful.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

He matched Vulcan twice, once after being thrown into a star and absorbing its power, and another by absorbing Vulcan's own power which he described as a "star".

He also melted an Adamantium-door, although that took him all of his power and several seconds of constantly firing at it.

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm. So 4-B at maximum power then?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think that's too uncertain, sorry.

I think that 5-B / Whatever level Vulcan is through Absorption is most likely. I will keep researching.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.