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Yes. Being 2-A Means being able to destroy infinite separate space times.
I don’t disagree, but when Super Sonic fights Solaris, he could also destroy space and time, same as GP, because of the nature of his power, but he needed help to destroy Solaris all at once. Not because Solaris was much stronger than Sonic, as Sonic solo’ed his own Solaris in the present, but because Solaris need to be defeated in multiple points in time.
 
I don’t disagree, but when Super Sonic fights Solaris, he could also destroy space and time, same as GP, because of the nature of his power, but he needed help to destroy Solaris all at once. Not because Solaris was much stronger than Sonic, as Sonic solo’ed his own Solaris in the present, but because Solaris need to be defeated in multiple points in time.
Oh i understand now. Which raises a question...Is Solaris concept hax blast based?
 
I don’t disagree, but when Super Sonic fights Solaris, he could also destroy space and time, same as GP, because of the nature of his power, but he needed help to destroy Solaris all at once. Not because Solaris was much stronger than Sonic, as Sonic solo’ed his own Solaris in the present, but because Solaris need to be defeated in multiple points in time.
Why would Sonic sacrifice the timeline?
 
Oh i understand now. Which raises a question...Is Solaris concept hax blast based?

Archie Solaris has a unique origin than its game counterpart, as an Ixis Masterworks, with its origin being a creation of Mammoth Mogul, a master of Chaos Energy, in its magic form. And Chaos Energy is naturally conceptual.

Remember, Archie Solaris fought Archie Super Sonic and gave him a hard time, mimicking some game events.
 
If there was a void how would he exist in the past, present and future?

Anyway. In Xenoverse, which is canon to heroes, Goku goes from 3-C to 2-A with the SSG ritual. Same thing with Frieza, going from 4-B to 2-A. Time patrol Trunks, who’s already 2-A in base, then gets an SSG ritual amp so he could fight Fin. GP is far above this.
 
If there was a void how would he exist in the past, present and future?
Sorry, the Chaos Emeralds created a time-space rift. As for Solaris, it was stated Solaris is "Super Dimensional". I don't know what that means, but it implies Solaris would still be alive after all of Space and Time was consumed by it.
 
Even if One shot is the case(Low Godly is still a factor), Solaris has Conceptual Manipulation, and NLF for GP's info analyze to be aware of the Hax.

Remaining my vote for Solaris.

In Xenoverse, which is canon to heroes, Goku goes from 3-C to 2-A with the SSG ritual. Same thing with Frieza, going from 4-B to 2-A. Time patrol Trunks, who’s already 2-A in base, then gets an SSG ritual amp so he could fight Fin. GP is far above this.
Question, cause I'm confused, the infinite boost is between 4-B to 2-A?
 
Low Godly and Type 3 Acasuality say no to one shotting
Solaris is gonna regenerate ad infinitum tho. The two can't really put each other
Even if One shot is the case(Low Godly is still a factor), Solaris has Conceptual Manipulation, and NLF for GP's info analyze to be aware of the Hax.

Remaining my vote for Solaris.


Question, cause I'm confused, the infinite boost is between 4-B to 2-A?
Goku in Xenoverse BoG got amped from 3-C to 2-A and Frieza in RoF is superior to that Goku. Xenoverse follows the Toei timeline so Frieza in Namek Saga was 4-B.

How does his concept hax work? Still didn't understand that honestly.
 
If there was a void how would he exist in the past, present and future?

Anyway. In Xenoverse, which is canon to heroes, Goku goes from 3-C to 2-A with the SSG ritual. Same thing with Frieza, going from 4-B to 2-A. Time patrol Trunks, who’s already 2-A in base, then gets an SSG ritual amp so he could fight Fin. GP is far above this.
I don't think you can use multipliers for the ritual like that. Especially that even in canon Dragon Ball you can go from 3-A to Low 2-C with one transformation (such as SSJG to SSJB in the Broly Saga)

Also regardless of AP Grand Preist would need to destroy Solaris in the past, present and future simultaniously in prder to kill him, and even then Solaris has low godly so AP difference doesn't matter
 
I don't think you can use multipliers for the ritual like that. Especially that even in canon Dragon Ball you can go from 3-A to Low 2-C with one transformation (such as SSJG to SSJB in the Broly Saga)

Also regardless of AP Grand Preist would need to destroy Solaris in the past, present and future simultaniously in prder to kill him, and even then Solaris has low godly so AP difference doesn't matter
Problem is that everything about Xenoverse applies to Heroes too. Even then saying who has the AP advantage would be difficult even with the 4-B to 3-A boost since it's a monstrous boost
 
The multipliers are often inconsistent in DB. SSJ due to feats is at least a 40 times multiplier from base due to feats from Frieza, and SSGSS is 40 times stronger than SSG due to being the equivalent of SSJ with God Ki

However Broly Saga SSG Goku is 3-A, while Broly Saga SSGSS Goku is Low 2-C, which is an infinite times increase
 
I mean he hasn’t been in a situation like this before, I don’t know if you could argue about what’s in character here.
 
I mean he hasn’t been in a situation like this before, I don’t know if you could argue about what’s in character here.
He won't use stuff he never showed in character. If he's bloodlusted then it may be plausable that he would nuke the multiverse but in character it's extremely ooc
 
I mean he hasn’t been in a situation like this before, I don’t know if you could argue about what’s in character here.
The argument you could make is that since he has cosmic awareness he would try but it's a stretch. As I said someone like Mechi would be more of a fair match.
 
He won't use stuff he never showed in character. If he's bloodlusted then it may be plausable that he would nuke the multiverse but in character it's extremely ooc
He hasn’t been in a situation with an unkillable opponent like this, you can’t just say “well he hasn’t done this before.” Those were in entirely different situations than this.
He never needed to, in this situation he would.
Unless there is a personal reason for him not to, he probably would.
 
Maybe, but it definitely won't happen before Solaris would hax him and would probably only happen after he tried literally everything else
 
Did he nuke it then? If not is doesn’t matter.
No one knows how Archie's version of the fight played out. Just that Archie Super Sonic makes wishes that are capable of nuking the multiverse in character and Solaris put up a hard fight against him.
 
So we don’t know if he did, so you can’t really use that as an argument(though if something that drastic happened it would be mentioned most likely. So it probably didn’t.)
 
What does "In-Character" mean to you?

Sonic throws kicks and punches in character:
(though if something that drastic happened it would be mentioned most likely. So it probably didn’t.)
(Forget that Archie Solaris has only been mentioned in the encyclopedia and barely any is said about it)
 
BTW. When the new DBH episode comes out I'm throwing Dark King Fu against some Archie character. Any ideas? Solaris aside


In the meantime I'm remaking this match so it will be more fair.
 
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