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Please say sikeTbh these kind of things make me want to believe their universe creation/destruction feats don't scale to their actual stats, which have been consistently around multi con
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Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work
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I mean, if we're seperatin the continuities, don't see why the Creation Trio avatars wouldn't also be affected
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Because again, they scale to the entire Pokemon cosmology. All the canons are under the same cosmology, it's just that cross-scaling between them is banned. But, since the Creation Trio scale to the full cosmology, they'd be unaffected
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I mean, I know their true forms would scale, not sure if their avatars would tho
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yeah, didn't understood why they are considered in the same cosmology, but oh well, maybe we can tackle this in a later crt, for now let us stick to what was accepted also because i am too lazy to actually do anything
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huh, 6-C, how much was the moltres calc?
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2-B, likely 2-A comes from the entire cosmology being a countless to infinite number of universes. Also in all canons, Dialga and Palkia have a feat of being about to reset the entire cosmology to one without any spirit (thanks Cyrus)
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Don't really get how Cyrus' remake the universe plan is actually 2-A, but ehh, what do I know
Still, Primal Dialga is limited to Low 2-C so it isn't too far-fetched to say that not all avatars are equal
Still, Primal Dialga is limited to Low 2-C so it isn't too far-fetched to say that not all avatars are equal
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It's because it was stated to be all of reality, not just the universe, which was accepted as being the entire cosmology
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Yeah, still don't really get why we assume all avatars are equal when Primal Dialga exists
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Primal Dialga is specifically a weakened Dialga (it's lost its complete authority over time)
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It only loses it's hax
Not it's full power
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btw, why isn't prime dialga a key? i mean, it is a major appearance of it right?
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No idea tbh, we should make that a key
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It used to have its own profile, but it got deleted for some reason.
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i remember that it was in the main profile page as a picture, but with no key
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Um...that has happened many times before and the Sonic characters usually gets stomped
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How?
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...So what?
Primal Dialga is just a low 2-C normal dialga
It's AP is still so stupidly high there and it's hax is why Dialga stomps the Sonic verse
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Primal Dialga should sense it's just a corrupted Dialga
It has immortality type 9 because it's just a corrupted avatar of Dialga
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Actually funnily enough, I realized something a while ago about Primal Dialga and planned on making a thread about it one day.
So, we all know Grovyle, right? And how he defeated Uxie, Azelf, and Team Pokepals, who defeated Mespirit, who are consider Multi+ here, yeah? Well, Grovyle still considers Primal Dialga a massive threat to him after he preformed said feats, to the point where he basically wanted to give up when he appeared to him and Team Pokepals when they tried to go back to the past a second time, so Primal Dialga should still scale. However, it would only be for AP and Dura, so stuff like range will only be Low 2-C.
(So in other words, I'm suggesting we give him the Infinity Gauntlet treatment.)
We have characters who scale to him on here (Grovyle, Celebi, and Dusknoir), so it is somewhat important to talk about.
Also one more thing:
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it was a joke, someone took it seriously
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Terrible and unfunny joke
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Bump. The mainline game stuff have been sorted out.
What we got to do next is anime stats
Anime profiles will be for Trainer Pokémon and special wild Pokémon like Team Rocket Bewear.
There are other verses, like PMD, Pokken and more, but I don't think there are many interested parties for it.
I wanted to start PMD but I kind of lost interest
What we got to do next is anime stats
Anime profiles will be for Trainer Pokémon and special wild Pokémon like Team Rocket Bewear.
There are other verses, like PMD, Pokken and more, but I don't think there are many interested parties for it.
I wanted to start PMD but I kind of lost interest
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Uh, not really. The game stats haven’t been applied yet, and I’m pretty sure we haven’t determined what all the legendaries scale to.
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I think we have tbh. We got a bunch of calcs, and the consensus seems to be to scale other legendaries to the lowest value based on when they're encountered in-game (like Latios/Latias in Gen 3 being encountered after beating the League, which comes after beating Groudon)
I say lowest because, take Gen 4 for example... We're not making Zapdos, Moltres, and Articuno 2-B to 2-A
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couldn't we give them a gen 4 key? there are more than just 1 of each right? maybe the natives of sinnoh are stronger?
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