Gogeta vs Lightning | GRACE ENDED

[Quibster]

Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)

Lightning beat Son Goku, but how can she fare against Gogeta?

Both are Low 2-C

Speed is equalized

Battle takes place in the Tournament of Power Arena from Dragon Ball Super

Base Gogeta is being used

Lightning: 0

Gogeta: 8 (Dragomer, GigaSPX, Sorvoe551, ProudLearner, DragonEmperor23, Lonliosite, Mr.Cinos15, Shubham_Sonsurkar)

 

[Quibster]

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[Akreious]

The winning point of Lightning against Goku was that she can debuff him enough for her to get the winning edge. Not only did Goku get another power up from that matchup (UIO 2, UIO3, and MUI), but Super Saiyan Gogeta beats even MUI and SSB stomps regular SS Gogeta.

Where does Lightning's Immortality Type 4 even come from? There's absolutely no mention of a self-resurrection skill in FF XIII's Skills Page. And The arguments that Lightning's Timestop should affect Gogeta because it affected an Infinite Speed being isn't even valid anymore since said being was never updated to Infinite Speeds and neither was she.

And I don't think we accept "Existing in a timeless void" as a good feat for Time Stop because we'd have to prove said Timeless Void was an actual Void.

So for now, Gogeta just 1-shots her in all rounds. She's only better than baseline while Gogeta in his weakest, base form would 1-shot anybody near Baseline. Lighting's timestop from what I can see wouldn't affect Gogeta and she would have to summon Odin first thing and spam out debuffs like her life depends on it (It does) before Gogeta does literally anything. One Ki-Blast connecting with her means she's toast.

And don't bump within 8 minutes of posting something.

 

[Quibster]

So are you voting Gogeta or saying that this is a stomp?

 

[Akreious]

I'd rather wait for Lighting Farron supporters first. Honestly no idea why people were saying that OG Lightning Farron vs Goku wasn't a stomp seeing as she always starts with Timestop IC and Odin can 1-shot Goku back then but whatever. Apparently Goku can win if Lightning acts extremely OOC I guess.

Even then, that info's dated since the profiles don't reflect the "Infinite Speed" argument.

 

[HST_Master]

Wasn't Jiren's Match against her an arguable Stomp tho? Then Gogeta is a genuine stomp.

 

[Akreious]

Looking at her matches, Beerus had the majority over Lightning since he has EE and this was back when the power scaling wasn't as concrete so people only considered him around baseline.

Now we're pitting her up against someone that would 1-shot "Above baseline" characters. Which is honestly worse than Beerus' lolhakai.

Opens with a move IC <<< Kills with literally anything. Tap on the face, dead. Tap on the shoulder, paste. Light Ki Blast? Quarks to the wind.

 

[Quibster]

So this is a stomp then?

 

[Quibster]

What if I made her fight against base form Gogeta?

 

[Quibster]

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[Quibster]

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[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

The winning point of Lightning against Goku was that she can debuff him enough for her to get the winning edge. Not only did Goku get another power up from that matchup (UIO 2, UIO3, and MUI), but Super Saiyan Gogeta beats even MUI and SSB stomps regular SS Gogeta.
Where does Lightning's Immortality Type 4 even come from? There's absolutely no mention of a self-resurrection skill in FF XIII's Skills Page. And The arguments that Lightning's Timestop should affect Gogeta because it affected an Infinite Speed being isn't even valid anymore since said being was never updated to Infinite Speeds and neither was she.

And I don't think we accept "Existing in a timeless void" as a good feat for Time Stop because we'd have to prove said Timeless Void was an actual Void.

So for now, Gogeta just 1-shots her in all rounds. She's only better than baseline while Gogeta in his weakest, base form would 1-shot anybody near Baseline. Lighting's timestop from what I can see wouldn't affect Gogeta and she would have to summon Odin first thing and spam out debuffs like her life depends on it (It does) before Gogeta does literally anything. One Ki-Blast connecting with her means she's toast.

And don't bump within 8 minutes of posting something.

MUI is stronger than Fusion. In the movie Goku didn't used SSB Kaioken nor went MUI

 

[Quibster]

"MUI is stronger than Fusion"

What

"In the movie Goku didn't used SSB Kaioken nor went MUI"

No shit sherlock. ecksdee

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

"MUI is stronger than Fusion"
What

"In the movie Goku didn't used SSB Kaioken nor went MUI"

No shit sherlock. ecksdee

MUI has higher power multiplier plus that instant dodges

 

[ZERO7772]

Wasn't the Jiren match a stomp? Gogeta is considered much stronger than Jiren "especially on this site" so I don't see lightning winning.

UI Goku dodge is shit lol he can't dodge even Jiren.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Wasn't the Jiren match a stomp? Gogeta is considered much stronger than Jiren "especially on this site" so I don't see lightning winning.
UI Goku dodge is shit lol he can't dodge even Jiren.

Never said Lightning is winning and Jiren is stronger than Full Power Broly not on this site as there is no way of scaling Jiren with Broly as Goku said Broly is stronger than Beerus but he didn't mention Jiren

 

[ZERO7772]

Not internet in this Jiren vs Broly shitshow. Gogeta is in the same park anyway so I don't see how this match is different.

 

[Quibster]

Would Lightning's debuffs do anything to Gogeta?

 

[Quibster]

Shubham,

You're telling all of us that MUI Goku beats SSB Gogeta in a fight? The same Gogeta that shattered 3 dimensions before coming back to Earth, and is faster than Broly?

My dude, MUI or not, Goku gets creamed.

Edit: MUI Goku is Low 2-C, SSB Gogeta is 2-C. Huge power and speed diff here.

 

[ZERO7772]

IMO the idea of UI Goku being stronger than Gogeta is absurd consdering SSJ Gogeta stomps SSBE and SSBKKx20 put together and he has 4 transformations to go from there.

This is beside the point thought. Lightning lost to Jiren, she's not touching Gogeta unless she can prolong the fight for 30 min.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Shubham,
You're telling all of us that MUI Goku beats SSB Gogeta in a fight? The same Gogeta that shattered 3 dimensions before coming back to Earth, and is faster than Broly?

My dude, MUI or not, Goku gets creamed.

Edit: MUI Goku is Low 2-C, SSB Gogeta is 2-C. Huge power and speed diff here.

Shattering dimension is nothing compared to shaking infinite world of Void which is diconnected from Space and Time. And Buuhan has collided multiple dimensions

 

[Akreious]

If you disagree with current Profile Rankings, make a CRT. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't have any bearing on the battle. On this site, it's Gogeta > MUI Goku.

 

[Planck69]

Regardless of that (I personally think Gogeta>>>MUI Goku), isn't Gogeta like, hundreds of times baseline at the very least? While Lightning is haxxed I don't see her using them against him before he does literally anything to end the fight.

If this isn't a stomp I'm going for Gogeta.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

If you disagree with current Profile Rankings, make a CRT. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't have any bearing on the battle. On this site, it's Gogeta > MUI Goku.

Hmm I think I will first make Current MUI Goku vs Current SSB Gogeta then the CRT

 

[Quibster]

Lol.

 

[Quibster]

Anyways, I'd rather not derail this thread.

Who wins, who loses, and why.

 

[Dragomer]

Gogeta easily win, Lightning's win against a much weaker Goku than the one used as a component for this Gogeta was already only based on the hope that she could debuff him enough to win and an 'infinit speed' revision that ended up being rejected IIRC.

Wouldn't call it a stomp but i just don't see Lightning winning. Unless Gogeta goes Blue, in which case it's a stomp since he is 'likely 2-C'.

 

[Quibster]

Vote Counted

 

[Planck69]

From Dragomer's reasoning, I'm changing to a straight vote for Gogeta.

 

[GigaSPX]

Voting Gogeta FRA.


And also, MUI Goku is not more powerful than Gogeta, just to put my input here.

 

[Sorvoe551]

Vegerot FRA

 

[ProudLearner]

Gogeta FRA.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Gogeta fra

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Ain't lightning getting upgraded to 2-A

 

[Quibster]

Isn't Xeno Goku 2-A?

 

[Ionliosite]

Gogeta FRA

 

[Quibster]

bump

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Gogeta fra

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Gogeta FRA

 

[Quibster]

bump, someone add this