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A verse I support and am revising has a planet that dwarfs multi-timeline sized butterflies in size. Honestly, this confirmation wouldn't exactly be that weird of a change lol.
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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It's not really even the script but just precog and predictable intuition made easier to handle by the victims' undeniably bad life decisions.
The kind of mystical that ***** around and finds out with space and time itself, which the Norns do not do.
Here's the thing. The Norns can't manipulate time either. The lake only serves as a hideout for the Norns with their threads, and they themselves state that the story they're selling about fate in Norse lands is utter bullshit, they only use their precog and their deduction skills to tell people how bad they ****** up in life to bring it to a horrible end.
Showing any infinite-sized object in 100% form physically like that is simply put, impossible. By that logic GOW would have to show the Underworld having no limits within the game itself by physically showing it without any statements, despite the bonus video within GOW1 itself involving the main concept artist, the GOW1 Bonus disc, the Prima Guide which repeats the same exact shit as the Bonus video, Temple of Helios and one more WoG (Cory himself, who confirmed the Bonus Video's statement to be true) stating otherwise. And here's the thing: None of the size statements are ever contradicted in any measure by the games, ever. Especially with regards to the Greek Underworld.
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honestly direction can be fit in causality manip category
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To be fair tho, Cory calls it a "Greater Universe".
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Yeah that’s my take on it, it’s weird since the whole point is Surtur
True
Also how old are the Æsir? Like is it just a few centuries?
Perhaps that’s how undeath happens, you lose direction to the afterlife
let me have my galaxy sized Earth
Yeah I think the Norns only simulate timelines, using their precognition like Strange predicting Thanos’ possible defeats
wait, can we make profiles for the Berserkers
okay sure
wild Wights are here since aren’t they another Celtic Thing? Like the Wulvers?
it’s weird
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Inb4 the "higher existence" is an alien pantheon or sum shit lol.
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Also, is it funny to anyone else we might see the series go the route Marvel’s Ragnarok did? Incorporating higher deities who manipulate the lesser pantheons, only to have the cycle broken by one deity?
like you can make a religion out of this shit and we’re Lowkey starting a new pantheon
like you can make a religion out of this shit and we’re Lowkey starting a new pantheon
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That would be wild. Though, hopefully it doesn't get too out there (like, Magi Gods tier for instance). Having Kratos at High 1-B would be...something.
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What the hell are Magi Gods anyway?
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Gods from the manga/anime Magi. Basically, the universe and its gods are stories to be written at the whims of higher gods, who themselves and their universes are being written by even higher gods ad infinitum.
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Me too. Though, I wouldn't mind the overall cosmology being pretty large, even if Kratos doesn't scale to the totality of it (which I honestly don't think he ever will).
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No, they make propechy because they look in the well of fate, they play out many timelines of event, and then predict what the timeline that reality will choice as its path
Its mystical, and if its officialy states have endless timelines, then its have it. Its not need to stated have space time or anything, if ita stated its have that then its have
They cant manipulate time its have nothing to do that the norse pantheon not have endless timelines. Basically, they "precog" its from the mystical well, where all endless future possibilities is there. They cant manipulate fate and time, but thats not a reason the fate and endless timelines is not exist
Where i says its must showing in physical??? I says there are no explanation (statement or codex) in the game that say the yggdrasil branches is infinite. Its for your statement that there are no codex for well of fate in game. What i mean its no need to be in game, if its official then we can use it. Not explain in game, its not mean that not exist
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Yeah I prefer that too, I think part the appeal is Kratos feels like a man with the power of the Gods (like Herakles or Thor in the myths) so I hope he’s not transcendent or anything
at best, I hope he starts a pantheon of his own. Maybe incorporating himself, Atreus, Mimir, Angroboda, Thrûdc Freya and a few others (like if Horus joins up)
Oh
hmm link? That’s void manipulation for Nodhogg with Limited Void Manip for Kratos and likely Freya
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Addressing this, there's a massive difference in the contexts of both situations;
With the Well or Urd, a claim is made that it contains infinite timelines within itself. Thing is;
- We do not get a mention of the timelines from either the Norns or the people that visit them and the Norns themselves deny the existence of some overarching force of fate that they curate. In fact, the power to create alternate timelines, change time and control fate in the same manner as the Sisters of Fate did is outright stated to not exist in the Norse Word.
- The well itself has no special properties that would somehow imply it contains infinite iterations of reality inside itself. We get no glimpse of them nor a lore entry mentioning them at all.
The Yggdrasil is stated in-game to support all of creation upon it and transcend time and space. The cosmos are but a small part of it and so not only would a statement of it having infinitely long branches have far more of a basis to be legitimate but this doesn't have the same soft contradictions as the Well of Urd.
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I've always liked this idea. It's reminiscent of when GOW 2018 was first revealed and everyone thought Kratos was Odin, and Atreus was Thor.
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Source?
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T.B.F., I really expected that after Ragnarok Kratos would be able to best DOOM Guy and Dante. But the entire GoW verse still gets one-shot by either of them. Shame.
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That depends on the Tree currently.
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Eh, not losing too much sleep over it.
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Does it even matter ? we should stop discussing something like that. keep the discussion chill no need to bring other verse
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Well it is called the Vs battles wiki
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additional proof that voids can erase soul ?
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yes that is true, but spirits of this wiki put emphasis on finding reliable character statistic rather than create potentially bad-blood discussion/comment.
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That wasn't a bad blood comment in the slightest tbh
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Yeah. I just expressed what I wanted from GoW : R in a polite away.
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Ragnarok. Where Freya and Atreus go through hell to seal them off because of his Garmr ****-up.
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Kratos still has valid win conditions against him, anyway, honestly.
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That's just precog at best.
It's still secondary canon, any immediate contradiction favoring the primary canon AKA the games.
Precog is all them, not from the well.
No in-game statements in GOW1 or Chains that say the same about the Underworld. Try not to dwell on it too much.
I don't think you understand what "secondary canon" means buddy.
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Thank you for making this clearer and more concise than ever I could hope.
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2-A precog Yhwach moment? Maybe? IDK
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