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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

Planck69 said:
It'd definitely be present as a "Likely X, Y, Z... (Has mastered the same Seidr magics as Odin and would likely be capable of utilizing his magical abilities). Funny how Freya and Odin are the main haxwalls of the Norse World.

Wonder how Greek Kratos would feel seeing his future self. Shocked? Envious?

And Thor and Kratos could be the father-in-laws that barely get along.
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1) True, I'd suggest splitting it up into sections (maybe objective and via scaling?) since otherwise it's just a wall of Hax. 2) I can see envy but I imagine that being a fun Helheim fight 3) God that would be cool, I lowkey hope they bring him back for that
 
Also dumb question, Is Norse Kratos stronger or weaker then Ares? Remember hearing Spartan Rage is his GOW powers
 
Hellbeast said:
1) True, I'd suggest splitting it up into sections (maybe objective and via scaling?) since otherwise it's just a wall of Hax.
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Nah. They'd share it through and through. There's no need for "Likely", and let's be honest, they were gonna be walls of hax anyway. Assuming they're even that big enough to rival Kratos's portfolio or even Zeus's. Let alone Hades.

Hellbeast said:
2) I can see envy but I imagine that being a fun Helheim fight
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I think Greek Kratos would also feel quite happy that he changes for the better and finally becomes a force of good.

Hellbeast said:
Yeah really it's just summoning and NPI
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Still limited Conceptual Manip. Sure, it's nowhere near the level of mastery Zeus has, but still something to index.

Hellbeast said:
3) God that would be cool, I lowkey hope they bring him back for that
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Hopefully.
 
Hellbeast said:
Also dumb question, Is Norse Kratos stronger or weaker then Ares? Remember hearing Spartan Rage is his GOW powers
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Definitely stronger than Ares at this point. Heck, his own words we know he called Thor's blows as heavy as any he had ever felt, effectively confirming that Kratos only retained his GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope levels of strength when going all out.

And even then, he bullied Heimdall so bad and easily turned the final fight against Thor, Heimdall he was visibly angry but still nowhere near consumed by vengeance as he was against the Olympians, and against Thor he's actively trying to save him and to get him to change for the better.
 
KLOL506 said:
Nah. They'd share it through and through. There's no need for "Likely", and let's be honest, they were gonna be walls of hax anyway. Assuming they're even that big enough to rival Kratos's portfolio or even Zeus's. Let alone Hades.
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I know, I'm suggesting that for tidiness. I suggested similar for Hades and wouldn't mind Zeus getting similar
KLOL506 said:
Definitely stronger than Ares at this point. Heck, his own words we know he called Thor's blows as heavy as any he had ever felt, effectively confirming that Kratos only retained his GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope levels of strength when going all out.

And even then, he bullied Heimdall so bad and easily turned the final fight against Thor, Heimdall he was visibly angry but still nowhere near consumed by vengeance as he was against the Olympians, and against Thor he's actively trying to save him and to get him to change for the better.
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Plus Kratos seems to threaten Odin with "the God I was back then" so it's worth noting. Makes sense, that implies he's at least top tier (since Ares was one of the four mightiest Gods and Athena considered him a threat to Poseidon)
KLOL506 said:
I think Greek Kratos would also feel quite happy that he changes for the better and finally becomes a force of good.
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That would be true, I kinda want to know what Calliope would think. I like to imagine her the way Kuba did, as a Goddess of Love and Song
KLOL506 said:
Still limited Conceptual Manip. Sure, it's nowhere near the level of mastery Zeus has, but still something to index.


Hopefully.
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Yeah but not really combat applicable compared to Freya's own wall of text
 
Hellbeast said:
I know, I'm suggesting that for tidiness. I suggested similar for Hades and wouldn't mind Zeus getting similar
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Zeus doesn't have as much goodies as Hades does to justify such a separation. Neither does Poseidon. Besides, it's not like the keys would allow you to prevent Hades or Kratos w/ Claws from using those abilities anyway in a match like, ever.

Hellbeast said:
Plus Kratos seems to threaten Odin with "the God I was back then" so it's worth noting. Makes sense, that implies he's at least top tier (since Ares was one of the four mightiest Gods and Athena considered him a threat to Poseidon)
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Yeah.

Hellbeast said:
Yeah but not really combat applicable compared to Freya's own wall of text
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We index combat-inapplicable stuff all the time, while also noting them to not be usable so no biggie there.
 
KLOL506 said:
Zeus doesn't have as much goodies as Hades does. Neither does Poseidon. Besides, it's not like the keys would allow you to prevent Hades or Kratos w/ Claws from using those abilities anyway.
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No but it's still a lil untidy imo when the SIrens powers are just indexed next to his normal ones. IMO it'd be inherent (all his current stuff), via Summons (Sirens) and Via the Blade of Olympus (insert that). Poseidon doesn't need it tho
KLOL506 said:
Yeah.
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It's wild because that implies the Norse are, on average, more powerful then the Greeks
KLOL506 said:
We index combat-inapplicable stuff all the time, while also noting them to not be usable so no biggie there.
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I know, my point is it wouldn't be relevant in a matchup vs Freya, unlike how Beast seemed to consider it
 
Hellbeast said:
No but it's still a lil untidy imo when the SIrens powers are just indexed next to his normal ones. IMO it'd be inherent (all his current stuff), via Summons (Sirens) and Via the Blade of Olympus (insert that).
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Nah, it's perfect as it is. BoO is forged from his own power so that's a non factor.

Hellbeast said:
It's wild because that implies the Norse are, on average, more powerful then the Greeks
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Only the fodder gods mostly. Top 4 strongest? No chance in hell.

Hellbeast said:
I know, my point is it wouldn't be relevant in a matchup vs Freya, unlike how Beast seemed to consider it
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Fair point. She only uses it once too.
 
**** God fights.

Who win in Fodders?

Minotaur vs Wulver.

Cyclops Vs Troll.

Dark Elf Lord Vs Satyrs.

Wraith vs Revenant

Dragur Vs armoured Zombie dude From GOW3

Cerberus vs Dreki
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
**** God fights.

Who win in Fodders?

Minotaur vs Wulver.

Cyclops Vs Troll.

Dark Elf Lord Vs Satyrs.

Wraith vs Revenant

Dragur Vs armoured Zombie dude From GOW3

Cerberus vs Dreki
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Trolls might actually be too much for Cyclops tbh
I’d also suggest Travellers to be somewhere
 


honestly judging from this dialog. Freya probably only guessing. (btw not negate what kratos saying, only freya part)

edit : and again, how freya know kratos homeland died ?
 
Hellbeast said:
Tbh Travellers might backscale from top tiers so
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Yeah good point.
Hellbeast said:
Draugr tear people apart pretty easily and I think there’s decent statements for Trolls
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Yeah that's at least 9-B right? They should be a lot higher than that tho, and I remember that one troll and the start of GOW 2018 was swinging his rock, club, whatever the **** it is, and destroying rocks and boulders.

I think there's also feats of ogres bussin through doors as well, and we know Trolls are way stronger. The Helheim Bridgekeeper might be Tier 2 since he's not a regular troll.
 
remember with this pic anyone?

god-of-war-egypt-07a9.jpg
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
Yeah that's at least 9-B right?
They should be a lot higher than that tho, and I remember that one troll and the start of GOW 2018 was swinging his rock, club, whatever the **** it is, and destroying rocks and boulders.
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Aye
BEASTHEART880 said:
I think there's also feats of ogres bussin through doors as well, and we know Trolls are way stronger. The Helheim Bridgekeeper might be Tier 2 since he's not a regular troll.
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Honestly there’s statements implying most trolls could get “at most 2-C” but I think the yield of them tossing around the obelisk would work fine
Travellers would scale to that since Atreus calls them strong and puts them right
 
Is there any new physical strength feats?

And how heavy is tyr's temple? I heard people saying it has the height of the nine realms.
 
Hellbeast said:
Aye

Honestly there’s statements implying most trolls could get “at most 2-C” but I think the yield of them tossing around the obelisk would work fine
Travellers would scale to that since Atreus calls them strong and puts them right
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Trolls being 2-C is just a massive stretch. Mattugr Helson is the only exception to this, but even then he'd be very low rung, got fodderized by early BoC Kratos in 2018.
 
Gasper said:
Is there any new physical strength feats?

And how heavy is tyr's temple? I heard people saying it has the height of the nine realms.
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AFAIK it was in the Class G segment as per WoG, weighing millions of tonnes or some shit.

EDIT: Yep, 1.774 million US tons or 1.61-ish million metric tons (Class G).

Of course, it's trumped by the Class T feat we now have for the Pythons and the shackles that can hold these beasts prisoner that Kratos can very easily tear apart.
 
KLOL506 said:
AFAIK it was in the Class G segment as per WoG, weighing millions of tonnes or some shit.

EDIT: Yep, 1.774 million US tons or 1.61-ish million metric tons (Class G).

Of course, it's trumped by the Class T feat we now have for the Pythons and the shackles that can hold these beasts prisoner that Kratos can very easily tear apart.
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That's for the bridge not the full temple.
 
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