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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

It's in one of the links. Actually might be on YouTube cause I was watching a playthrough and Kratos said that before going to see the Norns
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
I saw that too.

Is that really a spoiler? Lol he's fought precog users before
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I brought the statement up for the purposes of clearing up power scaling.

Cory is great for lore questions but he seems to be a shit source for powerscaling questions. He likely said "old Kratos would win" on the mere whim of liking him more and nothing more of deep thought or elaboration than that, seeing as that statement is contradictory to other statements he's made. But that loose statement alone caused a lot of unnecessary chaotic confusion on vs communities everywhere.

Luckily statements from Bruno, Eric Williams and a few in game statements from characters like Kratos and Thor themselves clear up the power scaling scene quite a bit.

Afterall
Heimdall is well above Baldur and possibly relative to Thor and Kratos still made the statement of putting Heimdall below past Gods he has killed. Mimir didn't doubt Kratos' statement either.

Thor also called Kratos a lesser version of his former self and joked that he was still trying to remember old moves.
 
The spear looks like the greatest GoW weapon to date. That is literally all I ever asked for, was that a spear would be the perfect weapon in the new engine. Eric Williams is a true GoW fan and Loves GoS. That spear truly showcases kratos as the God of War, producing weapons out of thing air. For years I have said that a spear would be the best weapon in ragnarok now I get to shill out my fantasy has become true
 
I think Surtr's feat could very well scale to the World Tree's tier or at least is superior to the splintering of the World Tree feat. Looking at both Jotnar shrine realm magic murals for Muspelheim and Skoll and Hati, Surtr cuts off the branch of the World Tree holding Asgard before destroying Asgard. Since branches are large parts of the World Tree and hold up a realm and said branches can fall if left to grow too wildly, causing the branch and the realm it holds to fall into other realms, Surtr's feat should fall into the realm of "significantly affect"
 
Fixxed said:
I found something interesting. Ironwood is a concept, that its can absord every memories of past and future. I think every that happen in norse pantheon is already structed by default, and the fate/prophecy is description of that, thats why it stated to be a "memories" that mean already happen
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As like as i think the fate is story/script that already contructed, thats why the past and future is only a memories, and kratos is being called as "The destroyer of fate". Kratos can destroy the fate that kratos will death. Plot manip for kratos
 
Dienomite22 said:
I think Surtr's feat could very well scale to the World Tree's tier or at least is superior to the splintering of the World Tree feat. Looking at both Jotnar shrine realm magic murals for Muspelheim and Skoll and Hati, Surtr cuts off the branch of the World Tree holding Asgard before destroying Asgard. Since branches are large parts of the World Tree and hold up a realm and said branches can fall if left to grow too wildly, causing the branch and the realm it holds to fall into other realms, Surtr's feat should fall into the realm of "significantly affect"
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AWESOME
 
Aetheric Pariah said:
The spear looks like the greatest GoW weapon to date. That is literally all I ever asked for, was that a spear would be the perfect weapon in the new engine. Eric Williams is a true GoW fan and Loves GoS. That spear truly showcases kratos as the God of War, producing weapons out of thing air. For years I have said that a spear would be the best weapon in ragnarok now I get to shill out my fantasy has become true
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Nemean cestus go brrr. But no I like Eric Williams as well, I believe he's worked on every title in the series, and you can tell he truly loves the series. I only wish they would bring back the Spartan shield from 2018 so we can really recreate the Arms of Sparta
KLOL506 said:
I made the thread for Kratos's Accelerated Development and Reactive Evolution.
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Heimdall fight is also good AD/RE feat for Kratos
Dienomite22 said:
I think Surtr's feat could very well scale to the World Tree's tier or at least is superior to the splintering of the World Tree feat. Looking at both Jotnar shrine realm magic murals for Muspelheim and Skoll and Hati, Surtr cuts off the branch of the World Tree holding Asgard before destroying Asgard. Since branches are large parts of the World Tree and hold up a realm and said branches can fall if left to grow too wildly, causing the branch and the realm it holds to fall into other realms, Surtr's feat should fall into the realm of "significantly affect"
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Bruh are u serious this time are you bullshitting like the others 😭 😭😭
 
Surtr was prophesized on the mural in 2018 to have destroyed everything but Mimir's tale of him in 2018 only mentioned Asgard. In Ragnarok, only Asgard being destroyed is what's reiterated by everyone in-game from what I've seen in the game.
 
Dienomite22 said:
Surtr was prophesized on the mural in 2018 to have destroyed everything but Mimir's tale of him in 2018 only mentioned Asgard. In Ragnarok, only Asgard being destroyed is what's reiterated by everyone in-game from what I've seen in the game.
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Yeah I always assumed Surtr would only destroy Asgard, not the other realms.

But it doesn't matter anymore, because he literally tore apart and destroyed the branch that held in Asgard.
 
KLOL506 said:
Yeah I always assumed Surtr would only destroy Asgard, not the other realms.

But it doesn't matter anymore, because he literally tore apart and destroyed the branch that held in Asgard.
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Would Sutr being stated to be incomplete during the siege of Asgard change anything for scaling or just be extra information?
 
Aetheric Pariah said:
The spear looks like the greatest GoW weapon to date. That is literally all I ever asked for, was that a spear would be the perfect weapon in the new engine. Eric Williams is a true GoW fan and Loves GoS. That spear truly showcases kratos as the God of War, producing weapons out of thing air. For years I have said that a spear would be the best weapon in ragnarok now I get to shill out my fantasy has become true
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Seeing it in action, it's one of the most satisfying looking weapons to date. Couldn't agree more.
 
Speaking of, I find it amusing how the Blades of Chaos are so powerful. Their fire can burn where no other in the Nine Realms can, apparently they contain Primordial Fire within them that can power up Sutr to the level of the Ragnarok Beast and even when completely rusted and unpolished they're impressive enough to be considered special in comparison to Mjolnir. Guess Ares really got his drachmas' worth.
 
For those concerned about spoilers, please note that the Patch Notes below contain quest, creature, and ability names.



Dialogue​

  • Fixed several cases where dialog would not play from shopkeepers.
  • Fixed a case where shop dialog would repeat too frequently.
  • Fixed several cases where stories would be incorrectly interrupted.
  • Fixed a number of situations where dialog was incorrectly prioritized, causing minor dialog to play instead of critical dialog.
  • Fixed a case where puzzle hint dialog would interrupt and block quest dialog during the quest “Across the Realms.”
  • Fixed a case where the companions would direct the player to stun enemies that could not be stunned.
  • Fixed a case where Mimir gave incorrect instructions to use a relic item.
  • Fixed a number of locations where dialog could play out of order, causing repeating dialog or confusing conversations with the companion.
  • Made adjustments to dialog timing to make conversations sound more natural.

Cinematics​

  • Fixed a case where the cinematic did not play when entering the office in the quest “The Quest for Tyr.”
  • Fixed a case where a cinematic did not play during the quest “The Lost Sanctuary.”
  • Fixed a case where backtracking during the quest “The Lost Sanctuary” caused a story beat to not occur.
  • Fixed several cases where dialog and subtitles would not play if the player restarted from last checkpoint during a cinematic.
  • Fixed a case where dialog and subtitles would not play during the quest “The World of Fate.”
  • Fixed a case where contradictory dialog will play during the quest “The World of Fate.”
  • Fixed a case where a story beat would not occur during the quest “The Summoning.”
  • Fixed a case where the wrong conversation could be triggered during the quest “The Realms at War."
  • Fixed a case where the characters were in the wrong position after restarting a checkpoint during a cinematic in the quest “The Realms at War.”
  • Fixed a rare case where stories would not play after completing the quest “A Viking Funeral.”
  • Fixed a case where stories would play during the quest “The Weight of Chains”, interrupting quest dialog.

Quests and Progression​

  • Fixed a case where an NPC would reappear after completing the quest “Cure for the Dead.”
  • Fixed an instance where the player would be unable to interact with an NPC in the quest “The World of Fate.”
  • Fixed a case where the companion would not activate a puzzle element in the quest “The World of Fate.”
  • Fixed a several cases where the companion would not move to the correct location during the quest “Forging Destiny”, which blocked puzzle completion and required a restart from last checkpoint.
  • Fixed a case where gates would be unavailable when backtracking during the quest “Reunion.”
  • Fixed a case where enemies could spawn twice, causing an abnormally difficult encounter.
  • Fixed several cases where specific shopkeepers would not spawn, requiring a checkpoint restart to restore them.
  • Fixed a case where the player could not exit the room in the quest “Into the Fire.”
  • Fixed a case where a critical encounter would not spawn in the quest “Scent of Survival.”
  • Fixed an area that would not load in time which resulted in rare cases where the player would fall out of the world in the quest “The Quest for Tyr.”
  • Fixed a case where the player could be pushed out of the world during the quest “The Quest for Tyr.”
  • Fixed a few cases where the companion would disappear during the quest “Nine Realms in Bloom.”
  • Fixed a case where the quest NPC could be invisible in the quest “For Vanaheim!”
  • Fixed a case where a chain did not appear, blocking further progress in the quest “The Runaway.”
  • Fixed a case where the wolf sled would disappear after restarting from checkpoint during a wall squeeze traversal in the quest “Hunting for Solace.”
  • Fixed a rare case where a gear would not freeze in the quest “Return the Favor” blocking progress and requiring a restart from last checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed a case where the camera could get stuck in a cinematic in the quest “Creatures of Prophecy” requiring a load from an earlier save.
  • Fixed a case where the player was teleported backwards and reset when trying to leave an area in the quest “Creatures of Prophecy”, requiring a restart from last checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed a case where restarting from checkpoint during the cinematic would cause characters to be missing during the quest “Surviving Fimbulwinter.”
  • Fixed a case where a character could remain in the quest “Unleashing Hel”, causing disruption to gameplay until restarting from the last checkpoint.
  • Fixed a rare case where the sled would not pass a gate in the quest “Surviving Fimbulwinter.”
  • Fixed a case where the sled would teleport behind a locked gate severely impacting the quest “The World of Fate.”
  • Fixed a case where the game would return the player to an incorrect checkpoint when restarting from checkpoint in the quest “The Realms at War.”

Gameplay​

  • Fixed several cases where enemy loot would fall in inaccessible places and could only be retrieved from the lost items chest in the shop.
  • Fixed a few cases where the companion would get stuck and not follow the player.
  • Fixed cases where the companion would behave erratically.
  • Added checkpoints to specific encounters that were missing them.
  • Made improvements to AI pathing.
  • Fixed several cases where the player could fall through the world under certain conditions.
  • Fixed several locations where the player could not interact with an elevator or was blocked from entering an elevator.
  • Fixed a case where the player was unable to enter the Svartalfheim office, which prevented them from returning to the bay when backtracking.
  • Fixed a case where the player was unable to interact with health stones during the quest “The Lost Sanctuary.”
  • Fixed a case where the companion could get stuck to the sled and carried away.
  • Fixed a few cases where the player would be unable to dismount a sled while exploring, which required a restart from the last checkpoint.
  • Fixed several cases where the sled did not properly follow the player when traversing on foot in exploration areas. (It can be a long walk!)
  • Fixed a case where the player could lose functionality while interacting with a mask and fall off a ledge during the quest “Unlocking the Mask.”
  • Fixed a case where the player could lose functionality and be unable to open a gate after completing the quest “The Last Remnants of Asgard.”
  • Fixed several cases where picking up collectible items could cause the player to fall out of the world.
  • Fixed a case where the player would fall out of the world when loading in after having restarted from last checkpoint while crawling through a cave.
  • Fixed a case where camera control could become disabled if the player and the companion entered a crack climb simultaneously.
  • Fixed a case where the companion would behave incorrectly during a tutorial in the quest “The Reckoning.”

Combat​

  • Fixed a rare case where the final boss does not appear in the final boss fight, requiring a restart from previous checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed several cases where canceling a move to evade would not properly cancel.
  • Fixed a case where projectiles from a player weapon would be invisible.
  • Fixed a number of cases where enemies could be knocked out of the world.
  • Fixed several cases where enemies could get stuck in the environment.
  • Fixed a case where the enemy in the quest “The Burning Skies” could remain passive.
  • Fixed a case where fighting a particular enemy while exploring would cause the weapon to be visually misaligned from the enemy.
  • Fixed a case where an enemy would not be properly stunned by a particular heavy runic attack on Give me God of War difficulty.
  • Fixed a case where using a realm shift ability when an enemy was spawning could cause them to get stuck during the quest “The Desert Door."
  • Fixed a case where the companion could fall out of the world when using a resurrection stone.
  • Fixed a rare case where an enemy could hit for double damage.
  • Fixed a case where the companion could incorrectly trigger a Ravager detonation.
  • Fixed some cases where an enemy attack could hit the player outside of the visual damage radius.
  • Fixed a case where the Bifröst status element was causing more damage to the player than indicated.
  • Fixed a case where the player could recall the Leviathan Axe if it was equipped during the boss fight in the quest “The Reckoning.”
  • Fixed several cases where the Stun Grab (R3) move would play incorrectly when the move damaged, rather than killed, the enemy.
  • Fixed some cases where an enemy would be incorrectly marked indicating a Stun Grab (R3) move was available when they were not stunned.
  • Fixed a rare case where an enemy affected by a damaging Stun Grab (R3) move that left them at 0 health would not die and could not be killed, blocking progress in the game.
  • Fixed a case where enemies in an adjacent encounter could heal enemies in the active encounter.
  • Fixed a case where an enemy was missing an unblockable indicator when performing an unblockable attack.
  • Fixed a case where a specific AoE attack at a lower height level could unfairly connect with the player.
  • Fixed a case where the player was not properly invulnerable when exiting Rage Fury.
  • Fixed a case where a particular enemy would clear all status effects mid-fight, unintentionally making the fight harder.
  • Fixed a case where the counters count incorrectly in the “Ring Out Challenge”, leading to failure of the challenge.
  • Fixed a case where an enemy would not be properly dispatched during a narrative moment, preventing progress in the quest “Reunion,” requiring a restart from last checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed a rare case where “the Hateful” enemy could become invulnerable, requiring a restart from last checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed a case where enemies could become idle and invulnerable in the quest “The Broken Prison.”
  • Fixed a rare case where animation could become misaligned during the boss fight in the quest “Reunion.”
  • Fixed a case where the boss continued to attack when stunned in the quest “Surviving Fimbulwinter.”
  • Fixed a rare case where the player could be knocked out of the arena in a boss fight during the quest “The Realms at War.”
  • Fixed a case where if the player restarted from last checkpoint, the companion would not attack the boss in the quest “The Realms at War” until commanded.
  • Fixed a case where the player could be teleported out of the world when restarting from checkpoint during a Stun Grab (R3) move in the boss fight during the quest “The Reckoning.”
  • Fixed a case where the companion would not attack the enemy “Slag Horn” until commanded.
  • Fixed a case where the player would be unable to use the Rampaging Ibex runic summon in a specific encounter in the quest “The Lost Sanctuary.”

Equipment and Upgrades​

  • Fixed a case where attempting to upgrade an equipped shield would fail after upgrading other equipped armor.
  • Fixed a case where Shattered Runes could not be sold in the shop after completing the main story.
  • Fixed a few cases where the player would be unable to upgrade or craft equipment despite having the required resources.
  • Fixed a case where upgrading Rage Fury while it was active caused it to stay on indefinitely, blocking further progress in the game.
  • Fixed a case where some armor items would appear under the wrong category when buying back from the shop.
  • Fixed a case where an amour set could be acquired multiple times, preventing other armor sets from being upgraded and required loading a previous save to progress.
  • Made the first resurrection stone free!

UI/UX​

  • Made improvements to the compass throughout the game.
  • Made tutorial timing adjustments throughout the game.
  • Made improvements to font rendering.
  • Fixed a case where the player could become stuck in the shop with no UI when pausing and unpausing the game while in the shop menu, requiring a reboot of the application to fix.
  • Fixed a few cases where interacting with puzzle elements during a tutorial could cause the tutorial prompt to remain on-screen, requiring a restart from last checkpoint to clear.
  • Fixed a case where subtitles could remain on screen after the dialog was finished, requiring a reboot of the application to clear.
  • Fixed a case where the “Death from Above” tutorial did not appear if the player cleared the enemies using ranged attacks before entering the area.
  • Fixed a case where the incorrect instructions would appear for a “Crucible Challenge.”
  • Fixed a case where headers would display incorrectly in the Favors menu.
  • Fixed several cases where context-sensitive information did not appear when hovering over map icons.
  • Fixed a case where the scrollbar would be missing from the Accessibility Preset menu.
  • Fixed a case where the Dreki health bar would be the incorrect power level color after reloading from a checkpoint on Give me God of War difficulty.
  • Fixed a case where the map markers would be missing when returning from the “Unleashing Hel” quest.
  • Fixed a case where after restarting from a checkpoint, the companion HUD would remain visible while the companion was unavailable in the quest “The Quest for Tyr.”
  • Fixed a case where the companion down indicator could remain on-screen throughout a cinematic if the companion was downed when the cinematic started.
  • Fixed a case where the compass markers could overlap boss health bars.
  • Fixed a case where completing an encounter did not remove the marker from the map.
  • Fixed some missing lore entries in the journal.

Stability and Performance​

  • Fixed several conditions that could cause a temporary drop in frame rate.
  • Fixed several crashes that could occur when browsing the journal.
  • Fixed several instances of crashes when using the equipment menus.
  • Fixed a number of rare crashes when exploring.
  • Fixed an issue where the game would stall and become unresponsive during the “Phantom Challenge.”
  • Fixed a rare crash related to the Rampage of the Furies ability.
  • Fixed several cases where the application could crash:
    • During the quest “The Quest for Tyr”
    • During the quest “Unlocking the Mask”
    • During the quest “Old Friends”
    • During the quest “The Summoning”
    • During the quest “Scent of Survival”
    • During the quest “In Service of Asgard”
    • During the quest “The Realms at War”
  • Fixed a crash in the final boss fight due to a particular attack hitting the player when using the accessibility feature “Recenter On Attack” set to “Priority +”.
  • Fixed a rare crash when using the “Falcon Dive” runic ability.
  • Fixed a rare crash when destroying an explosive pot in the quest “Old Friends.”
  • Fixed a crash when fighting enemies in “The Crucible” challenges.

Visual Impact​

  • Fixed a few cases where enemies would load in slowly.
  • Fixed a few cases where the zip line rope would become disconnected from the supports.
  • Fixed several cases where the environment would “pop in” when moving throughout the realms.
  • Fixed a few cases where the player could see missing world geometry from specific vantage points.
  • Fixed a situation where arrows embedded in enemies would not embed deep enough.
  • Fixed a few cases where the boat could be docked into rocks at the side of a beach.
  • Fixed a condition where the sled harness could become misaligned.
  • Fixed many places where armor and equipment could clip through the character model or environment.
  • Fixed several cases where VFX would be missing from specific player attacks.
  • Fixed a case where performing a shield punch and recalling the Leviathan Axe at the same time would cause the shield to remain open.
  • Fixed a case where a gate remained visible after being destroyed during the quest “The Quest for Tyr.”
  • Fixed a case where Dínner is missing when returning to the Svartalfheim safety office.
  • Fixed a case of incorrect VFX sorting in the quest “The Summoning.”
  • Fixed several cases of missing lip sync.

Audio​

  • Made general improvements to the Audio Mix.
  • Fixed a case where dialog and sound effects would stop playing, requiring a reboot of the application to restore.
  • Fixed cases where puzzle elements would not play environment sounds until interacted with.
  • Fixed instances of missing sounds from lift gates.
  • Fixed several cases where dialog volume was too low impacting story comprehension.
  • Fixed several cases where the player could hear Odin’s Ravens in the environment when they had already been collected.
  • Fixed a case where the low-health “heartbeat” sound would remain on past when it should, requiring a restart from checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed several cases where the sound of doors or gates could continue looping, requiring a restart from checkpoint to correct.
  • Fixed missing sound for narrative moments in the quest “Into the Fire.”
  • Fixed duplicate sounds for the player when using Spartan Rage.
  • Fixed missing wolf sounds when using the sled in the quest “Surviving Fimbulwinter.”
  • Fixed several cases of combat status effects incorrectly causing dialog to be quiet.
  • Fixing missing sound on parry and impact when using certain shields against particular enemies.
  • Fixed a case where combat music would be missing when restarting a checkpoint during the encounter during the quest “The Lost Sanctuary.”
  • Fixed several cases where combat music would be missing while exploring after completing the quest “The Realms at War.”
  • Fixed a case where part of the combat music either would not play, or would not stop playing, during the boss encounter in the quest “The Summoning.”
  • Fixed a case where the player struggle efforts would continue after death during the quest “Unlocking the Mask.”
  • Made improvements to audio blending between ambient zones.

Accessibility​

  • Fixed a case where the characters would become unresponsive in the quest “The Lost Sanctuary.”
  • Made improvements to the Navigation Assist feature throughout the game.
  • Made Improvements to the high contrast markup throughout the game.
  • Fixed a few cases where the screen reader did not read on-screen prompts.
  • Fixed a case where setting an accessibility preset to Full would set all accessibility presets to Full by default.
  • Fixed a condition where threat indicators would not flash to indicate enemy attacks when using High Contrast mode.
  • Fixed a number of cases where the Audio Cues would not play or would play incorrectly.
  • Fixed a case where a second button press would be required with the feature Repeated Button Presses set to “Hold” in order to register the input during the quest “Unleashing Hel.”
  • Fixed a case where the feature High Contrast mode would cause unexpected results in Niflheim.

Localization​

  • Fixed several alignment issues with Arabic text in the menu screens.
  • Fixed a few missing lines of dialog in Russian.
  • Fixed a case of incorrect information for armor stats in Arabic.
  • Fixed a case of incomplete text for graphics modes in Greek, Italian, Japanese, and Russian.

PS5 Specific​

  • Implemented additional tuning and coverage for DualSense controller haptics.

PS4 Specific​

  • Fixed several instances of loading hitches.
  • Fixed a few cases where the world would load in slowly causing temporarily degraded graphics.
  • Fixed an extremely rare crash when loading a save file.
 
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