Zeus and Kratos were straight up evenly matched here, failing the QTEs meant instant death. Kratos really only won because he was the better fighter in terms of skill. If they just chose to spam raw power at each other it would never end.
I'm not saying that, I'm literally just saying that the non-combatants of the Giant race probably wouldn't be able to beat most of the Titans because they were warriors though and through, does Thamur have any insane feats? Also, his corpse wasn't really doing anything to either Kratos or Baldur, they barely even acknowledged it, and kept fighting, not to mention we don't know if Freya's magic was enhancing it in anyway.
Uh then idk about thamur soloing
Actually, Kratos survives the fails, it's only if you let Zeus push you far enough back that you get instant killed. If you fail a couple times, Zeus slashes or even cuts into Kratos a couple times, but he doesn't die. Wouldn't Kratos have to be slightly stronger, he literally has to push Zeus back, passing the QTEs just gets him there faster.
That's why I was specifically saying Thamur and non-combatants, any decently strong Giant beats most of the Titans, like Faye, and Jorm.
If he was slightly stronger, he wouldn't have been taken by surprise by Zeus that many times to begin with.
Then how would he have managed to push Zeus back at all, Kratos took the Blade back everytime Zeus took it. I'm not saying it's a big difference, because it's barely there, but Kratos had to be a little stronger to push Zeus back into Gaia's heart, he wasn't using his skill when he was shoving Zeus, he was using his strength.
Kratos had to batter him around and use his superior fighting skills to make the cut.
Majority of the QTEs involve Kratos manipulating or moving the BoO in one way or another to give him an advantage, his Fleece was also carrying him here.
Kratos uses the Fleece precisely one time to block Zeus's first swing with it, Kratos uses his hands to stop it the next two times. Then when Zeus pushes as hard as he can, Kratos again uses his hands to push the Blade back and hit Zeus with it. When Zeus goes up in the air to try and slam down on Kratos, Kratos pulls the Blade out of his hands and slams it down on him instead. Then when he finally manages to get Zeus back to Gaia's heart, he slams the Blade into his face, gives him a quick slash, and finally charges the Blade up to kill Zeus. So, I don't really think it's fair to say Kratos was carried by the Fleece as he only blocked a single attack with it, the rest were with his hands.
That would be the final usage of the Fleece against him then.
Actually, Kratos still has his hands on the Blade, Zeus actually tries to yank it from him, but he sees this and counters with a slice instead.
Refer to the fight that takes place in Gaia's heart right before the QTE takes place. Or the Palace fight really.
I was talking about that specific fight, he only uses the Fleece once, I know he uses it a couple more times beforehand. My point though is that Kratos at that point probably wouldn't have needed the Fleece anymore, since he's capable of just catching the Blade of Olympus.
It likely just skipped it for dramatisation.
Gryla is Unknown in tier. Berserkers and King Hrolf are the same, since lore wise they're just superhuman bums, their difficulties aside.
So the Berserker's aren't that strong? I thought they were still considered pretty powerful, where do you think they'd be placed then?
Thing is, Kratos never really... says anything about their strength. Not even in a complimentary fashion like with the Valkyries' teamwork, Alva's sword skill or the strength of Thor's blows. Nor does any other character.
That's weird, you'd think their would be some throw away line at least giving us an idea of how strong they are, them replacing the Valkyries, but being weak as shit is strange. King Hrolf does manage to knock Kratos's Axe out of his hands for a second though, he immediately gets killed right after though, so not sure how useful it is.
Wasn't she physically above atreus?
Yeah, but like 90% of the other characters already are too lol, and his strength is all over the place anyway.
I mean i see why mfs think he compares to Thor. He koed someone who stalamanted Thor
With Perseus and the Dark Rider gone, if the Sisters weren't in charge, Kratos would've made well on his threat to kill Zeus with it already. The Sisters were in full freak-out mode at this stage.
Due to hax, power or it isn't specified
Not specified.
Yeah, but Jorm couldn't fight back since Kratos and Atreus were in his belly, we don't know how the fight would have gone if we actually got to see them fight for real.
The Fates, as well as Herc and Hera. He even respected Herc and didn't want to kill him, he's the only person he gave three chances to walk away from.
Most of them really. Like, Kratos is far from some moral paragon but he rarely actively sought a fight with someone who wasn't immediately useful to him and mostly did this in III.
I think the most egregious examples in the Greek part of the series were the characters who tried picking a fight with Kratos even after the events of God of War 1.
In fairness, most of the demigods and heroes thought that the Sisters of Fate would aid them in killing Kratos. Add that to the fact that he's been depowered from godhood and abandoned by the Olympians and its easy to make yourself think that he's no longer a threat and that he was largely aided by the gods in the first place, especially since they're no slouches themselves.
Theseus and Perseus I can understand, the former is sometimes interpreted to be a child of Poseidon and the later is a demi son of Zeus himself so both got some pretty strong divine genes, but....ICARUS? He's got some nice wings, but by GOW 2 he was basically a senile and insane old man who I think acted as fodder for the Sisters in keeping Kratos at bay.
Huh, I did not know about this part so that's really interesting to hear! If you don't mind me asking an already answered question, are the GOW novels considered canon alongside the games or do they act more as supplementary material that adds things to the story which the games didn't get the chance to add in?
More of the latter. As in, canon but the game takes precedent in case of any egregious difference.
That usually happens when it comes to novelizations, because they're not restricted by what they can and can't add in the games then I imagine it enables the writers of the GOW novels to add in stuff and characterization which you aren't going to see in the games. It's the case for the novelizations of every Monsterverse movie now that I think about it, which add in so much character and nuance that a part of me considers the novels as being the best way to experience the Monsterverse w
In the first novel;
