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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

GoW Ascension has the most variety of weapons and magics compared to other GoW greeks game if we include multiplayer.
 
So does that mean without PoH he can't kill Athena, or would the Blade work on her regardless of him having it.
Without the PoH he can't even interact with Athena. The Blade on its own is now useless, it doesn't light up anymore without Kratos getting ahold of it. The Blade now basically acts as a filter for Kratos's power, so when he stabbed himself with it, he had to channel Hope through it first, because only Hope can cut through Hope.
 
Without the PoH he can't even interact with Athena. The Blade on its own is now useless, it doesn't light up anymore without Kratos getting ahold of it. The Blade now basically acts as a filter for Kratos's power, so when he stabbed himself with it, he had to channel Hope through it first, because only Hope can cut through Hope.
Okay, that makes sense.
 
Universal Power Source. They use the exact same magic to create, defend, and attack, and their magic sustains these creations, without even so much as a single drop of sweat. Without them, the creations cease to exist near-instantaneously.
With that logic all attacks from magic users will have equal power because they use the same magic, and there wouldn't be ultimate or stronger attacks
 
With that logic all attacks from magic users will have equal power because they use the same magic,
Case-by-case. There are three types of power sources to keep in mind.

Limited Power Source: Power sources that only amplify one singular aspect of supernatural attacks to the same power level. For example, all fire-based attacks are of the same power level, all water-based attacks are of the same power level, but neither does this scale to physicals nor do these supernatural elemental powers scale to each other

Non-Physical Power Source: Energy Source where all supernatural abilities scale to each other and to the same power level, but physical strength is still out of the equation.

Universal Power Source: Energy source where both physical strength and all supernatural abilities scale to each other and are equal in power.

and there wouldn't be ultimate or stronger attacks
Incorrect. You can have a Universal Power Source scaling physicals and supernaturals to each other and to the same power level and still have ultimate attacks far higher than those usual operating levels. It really depends on the effort made to perform said ultimate attacks.

Same applies to all the other Energy Source types. It all depends on the effort and stamina you expend to make those attacks.
 
Incorrect. You can have a Universal Power Source scaling physicals and supernaturals to each other and to the same power level and still have ultimate attacks far higher than those usual operating levels. It really depends on the effort made to perform said ultimate attacks.

Same applies to all the other Energy Source types. It all depends on the effort and stamina you expend to make those attacks.
Why assume the power they use to create is = to the power they use in every attack including their physicals?
 
I'm assuming it's a UES since there's no reason that the energy/magic they use for their creation feats is randomly different from the energy/magic they use for attacks
I know they use the same type of magic, but there needs to be a reason to assume their physicals use the same amount of magic
 
Like if a character has a magic reserve, and they explicitly can use up all that magic reserve, or most of it, in an attack, then it should scale to creation feats that take up less of that magic reserve
 
Like if a character has a magic reserve, and they explicitly can use up all that magic reserve, or most of it, in an attack, then it should scale to creation feats that take up less of that magic reserve
does magic reserve matter for AP ? i think that is different thing tho
 
In before "people think that UES make every battle or magic fight boring since they don't have specific weakness when producing/outputting specific magic to create, defend, or attack".
 
I know they use the same type of magic, but there needs to be a reason to assume their physicals use the same amount of magic
They (specifically Tisiphone) aren't putting in any egregious amount of extra effort in her illusions as opposed to her regular energy blasts or vice versa, so I have no idea why we'd assume any massive difference in amount magic used at all.
 
I know they use the same type of magic, but there needs to be a reason to assume their physicals use the same amount of magic
Simple, they can channel it into their bodies however the **** they please, whether as a physical construct, a physical attack or an energy blast. That and what Planck said, they aren't putting literally any effort in their illusions at all, it's like second nature to them essentially.
 
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