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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

KLOL506 said:
Zeus could literally one-shot the entire Greek Pantheon with a single lightning bolt or a single breath if he so chose to, and he could scare every single god shitless with just his voice. Never mind the fact that Zeus literally states that all of Olympus had grown mightier and stronger since the end of the Great War as Mount Olympus grew. And GOW3 Kratos could only squeeze a stalemate out of him even with the Titan Power Ups and Hades' Soul plus the millions of other souls he had absorbed.
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I know he's far superior to any other God in the Pantheon, but is he really that strong? What sources indicate that?
 
I wonder how would a conversation go about kratos, atreus and mimir if they were giving kirby lore and then encounter the pink demon himself.

Mimir would absolute dub him a "pure primodial being that is still young" imho
 
Question, how do Surtr scale in Ragnarok? Since he doesn't have much feat aside from swatting Freyr and destroy Asgard.
 
MarcusTCicero said:
I know he's far superior to any other God in the Pantheon, but is he really that strong? What sources indicate that?
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Yes, he really is just built different.

As for sources? Repeatedly he is stated in multiple sources: in the Myth to Legend bonus video, GOW1 PS2 Manual and GOW2 PS2 Manual (Where Poseidon is stated to be second in eminence only to Zeus), GOW1 game itself in the Zeus' Fury obtaining scene, and in the GOW2 novel (This is where he angrily states that anyone who even thinks to betray him will be reduced to ash by his lightning bolt, and he threatens that as King he can do anything he pleases, even go so far as to violate the edict to not harm any gods, an edict he himself made up to avoid another Great War), to be the strongest and mightiest of all the Olympians, and that nobody can ever hope to challenge him in combat. The Three Olympians (Zeus, Poseidon and Hades) are stated to be unrivaled and unchallenged, that they are the strongest of all the Olympians, even in the GOW1 novel (The Three Olympians are called the Brother Kings), and in the GOW2 novel Zeus scares Hades and Poseidon shitless just by getting enraged and raising his voice, thrice in a row.
 
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CorneredHarbor said:
Is that it or are there any other statements? From developers, novels ect...
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Novel repeats the same exact line.

Also Freya in the novel states that Kratos's Leviathan Axe is useless in Helheim and states he'll need something stronger.
 
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Planck69 said:
He destroyed the branch of the Yggdrasil that Asgard rested upon as well and shook the World Tree to its core. He scales somewhat below Thor, Kratos and Odin.
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Cool, pretty funny how Odin is that strong despite his demeanor and how he was portrayed, his strength really feel like it came out of nowhere.
 
Jackpact said:
Cool, pretty funny how Odin is that strong despite his demeanor and how he was portrayed, his strength really feel like it came out of nowhere.
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I mean, he gutted Ymir whom he admitted that he couldn't just be shanked from behind like that due to being a literal force of nature, that alone should be pretty telling that he is quite a formidable adversary.
 
How is it that Norse Kratos kept his physical strength from GOW 3? Didn't he get his physical strength from all the power ups he got throughout GOW 2 as well as Hades' soul? And Fear Zeus took away all those things and his power ups. So how is he just as strong as before?
 
I can never remember the names of the videos, but PlayStation released a bunch of stories around the time of GOW 2018.

One was Odin stripping a seer of all her knowledge after she saw Ragnarok (he also killed her husband and hid it from her, even to the point where she couldn't see where he was after gaining that level of knowledge), and the other was a guy fighting a Valkyrie and becoming a Draugr.

Do any of you remember the name of these videos or have a link to them?
 
ByAsura said:
I can never remember the names of the videos, but PlayStation released a bunch of stories around the time of GOW 2018.

One was Odin stripping a seer of all her knowledge after she saw Ragnarok, and the other was a guy fighting a Valkyrie and becoming a Draugr.

Do any of you remember the name of these videos or have a link to them?
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Lost Pages of Norse Myth podcast. They are available for free to anyone on Google.
 
MarcusTCicero said:
How is it that Norse Kratos kept his physical strength from GOW 3? Didn't he get his physical strength from all the power ups he got throughout GOW 2 as well as Hades' soul? And Fear Zeus took away all those things and his power ups. So how is he just as strong as before?
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Nobody really knows. All we have is that Kratos somehow retained all the innate abilities (That aren't dependant on weapons) and resistances he had from his previous self and his base Demigod self and even his "depowered, no tattoo, no ashes" human self, as well as the physical strength he had right before obtaining hope, as the PlayStation blogs and multiple accounts from WoG in the 2018 Comic-Con official interview with Cory, and Eric Williams state, which Kratos is making a desperate attempt to suppress and hide and hold back on to not cause further chaos. And the Journal entry stating that Thor's blow were as heavy as any he ever felt, if Kratos was any weaker than that then that "temporary kill" would be permanent instead. But as we can see, the final rematch shows us different. Which not only implies Thor being worthy enough to scale to the upper echelon of the Greek Pantheon, but also that Kratos retained his strength and toughness he had back in GOW3, something he actively makes an attempt to not use for fear of breaking inside like he did a little with killing Heimdall.
 
Does anyone here have a picture of the novel statement that Baldur is the strongest foe Kratos ever faced?

Also can someone link the tweet of one of the GoW writers saying Zeus is stronger than Thor?

I am currently collecting some scans.
 
CorneredHarbor said:
Does anyone here have a picture of the novel statement that Baldur is the strongest foe Kratos ever faced?
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GOW2018 Chapter 4.

"Kratos rammed the stranger into the monolith. He responded by jamming his fingers into the cracks of the tree trunk to tear it in half. Kratos began to realize his strength might be insufficient to defeat this one. The power this man controlled seemed far greater than any Kratos had encountered in his past life."

This power here is actually more so in reference to Baldur's insane regenerative abilities. But every time Kratos went into Rage Mode, Baldur was never able to make a proper counterattack nor was he able to recover from any of Kratos's attacks quickly enough to hold an advantage for long.

CorneredHarbor said:
Also can someone link the tweet of one of the GoW writers saying Zeus is stronger than Thor?
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Here:


Bruno stating that Thor is at least Hippocampi level, though I personally think Thor is definitely Poseidon level, if not stronger. Bruno also once said that Zeus vs Odin would be a much better matchup than Zeus vs Thor. Will find that one later.
 
KLOL506 said:
GOW2018 Chapter 4.

"Kratos rammed the stranger into the monolith. He responded by jamming his fingers into the cracks of the tree trunk to tear it in half. Kratos began to realize his strength might be insufficient to defeat this one. The power this man controlled seemed far greater than any Kratos had encountered in his past life."

This power here is actually more so in reference to Baldur's insane regenerative abilities. But every time Kratos went into Rage Mode, Baldur was never able to make a proper counterattack nor was he able to recover from any of Kratos's attacks quickly enough to hold an advantage for long.


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Bruno stating that Thor is at least Hippocampi level, though I personally think Thor is definitely Poseidon level, if not stronger. Bruno also once said that Zeus vs Odin would be a much better matchup than Zeus vs Thor. Will find that one later.
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Interesting, wouldn't this imply that most giants are hippocampi level?

Also, thanks.
 
Andika_CL_atmadja said:
btw any reason why kratos killed poseidon princess ?
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He was just far too gone, that was the point of no return for him. He could've just told her to keep it up long enough for Kratos to pass through and then she could've just gone back to her cage to await her death like all other mortals.
 
CorneredHarbor said:
Damn. Even Zeus?
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Prolly not Zeus, but I'd say he could be comparable.

That is of course, until that AD and RE kicks in. Zeus is just built different.

And that's assuming Zeus isn't going to immediately power-null Starkadr into a weak Mortal like he did with Prometheus. Or really any of the other three next strongest Gods, Poseidon, Hades and Ares. Who all have their own unique hax.
 
KLOL506 said:
Prolly not Zeus, but I'd say he could be comparable.

That is of course, until that AD and RE kicks in. Zeus is just built different.

And that's assuming Zeus isn't going to immediately power-null Starkadr into a weak Mortal like he did with Prometheus. Or really any of the other three next strongest Gods, Poseidon, Hades and Ares. Who all have their own unique hax.
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So Zeus just straight up power nulled Prometheus? Is this touched more upon in the novels?
 
KLOL506 said:
He was just far too gone, that was the point of no return for him. He could've just told her to keep it up long enough for Kratos to pass through and then she could've just gone back to her cage to await her death like all other mortals.
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she is not strong enough lol
 
KLOL506 said:
Novel repeats the same exact line.

Also Freya in the novel states that Kratos's Leviathan Axe is useless in Helheim and states he'll need something stronger.
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isn't that more to do with the nature of helheim itself? its a frost axe and we see and hear from artreus that helwalkers are immune to the axe due to its nature as a weapon of frost we see it in our first encounter with one as well as in the gernal entries

Atreus's Notes
hese must've been strong Reavers back when they were alive. Now that they're dead, they are even stronger Hel-Reavers.
• These enemies will deflect Father's frost axe attacks. He'll have to use his fists instead to stun them.

• Hel-Walkers seem to draw their power from the frost, which makes Father's axe pretty weak against them. Good thing he's strong with his fists, too. I wish we had a fire weapon.
so I wouldn't really wager that the axe is pound for pound weaker than the blades of chaos but more so that in hel you might as well start using it as a cain as all the enemies in there are immune to is nature as a weapon of frost.
 
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