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Anyway, @KingTempest, the Blades of Chaos have a variable AP rating but their dura is consistently Tier 2 even in their weakened, busted states. Do I just put "Varies depending on the user's strength, upto 2-C at its strongest"?
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... yeah pretty muchAnyway, @KingTempest, the Blades of Chaos have a variable AP rating but their dura is consistently Tier 2 even in their weakened, busted states. Do I just put "Varies depending on the user's strength, upto 2-C at its strongest"?
K... yeah pretty much
Yep. Even I argue 1-B GoW outside V.S.B.W. because for me, the F.B. scan and 2 confirmations by Cory over it are more than enough. Cory even said that the promo posts are meant to go in depth into the cosmology and use complex scientific terms, so I consider them to be of the same importance as secondary canon sources anyway.Besides, it's all Subjective. If you really want to wank, you can say they've already reached Tier 1, and the Ygg is Hyperversal, as we got official confirmation of infinite dimensions existing. But more in game context is need for it to be applied.
But hey, this ain't the end all be all, if you wish to argue tier 1 everywhere else, cool.
Look at me, I have Post Crisis Superman at Low 2-C, and argue for it off site all time.
Hopefully one day all of this is confirmed in secondary canon in some way, shape or form or we at least get some insight onto this "Well of infinite knowledge" and Athena.Yep. Even I argue 1-B GoW outside V.S.B.W. because for me, the F.B. scan and 2 confirmations by Cory over it are more than enough. Cory even said that the promo posts are meant to go in depth into the cosmology and use complex scientific terms, so I consider them to be of the same importance as secondary canon sources anyway.
They literally say that it's all on one Earth. Those are their words. You're just using headcanon now.One Greater Earth or Universe, as he has claimed. Not that this "one Earth" is planetary in size.
He's comparing the relationship between galaxies and the universe in the Hubble image to the various lands and the Earth in the games. He could not more clearly be talking about the cosmology.Way to miss the point that this "one universe" is referring to the greater universe AKA the franchise.
That is what you consider a leading question? Outright asking how big the setting is? Bro have you seen Kratos's profile? That thing is full of vague and leading questions. His entire speed stat is based off of a leading question of because whoever was asking was too scared to outright ask how fast Kratos is. That entire list of WoG posted is full of vague and leading questions. How about this, maybe for once the people in charge should just outright ask how strong and fast Kratos is supposed to be. "Is Kratos faster than light? Can Kratos destroy infinite universe or is he at that level of strength where he can beat people who can? Are Greece and Midgard part of the same Earth sized planet or are they two entirely different universes?"Are you being serious right now?
This contradicts everything you just said within the games and other source materials, not to mention that Bruno's recent tweets were leading questions, which are explicitly forbidden under our WoG Rules. Read the last few pages and you'll see we discussed this thoroughly.
Well it's a good thing that nothing in Ragnarok involves the sun, moon, and stars since Skoll and Hatti don't end up eating the sun and moon and nobody would scale to them anyway since it's pretty clear that outside of their weird energy forms when they fly in the sky they're just regular giant wolves.This is also debunked by Ymir's Mural and the realms having their own separate Sun, Moon and stars. Not only that, the realms are literally admitted to being the literal alternate planes of existence, being reflections of each other, with portal travel from one realm's version of a destination landing you in that same exact destination the alternate realm regardless of where you start from.
Yes, the Sisters of Fate have threads that span all life and time within Greece. I didn't realize I had to tell you this but the devs aren't psychic and didn't realize that they'd me making games set in the Norse lands decades later when they made mentions of the world in the first games. The Gods had dominion over their lands and nothing beyond it.Worse still, this flies in the face of the two Pantheons having completely separate Underworlds, and the fact that the realms and geographical divides are not interchangeable, period. Not to mention the countless other contradictions with the Sisters of Fate having their threads span all life and time (STATED BY KRATOS WITHIN RAGNAROK) yet not affecting the Norse Realms, and Poseidon being God of all Seas but now being dead. If it were all on one Earth, the other Pantheons would have felt the same devastation of the worldwide flood.
So your argument is when they are saying that the entire setting takes place on Earth that's divided by geography that they are not actually saying that at all but are instead saying something completely different? When they say geographical divides, it's pretty damn clear that they're talking about geographical divides and not whatever headcanon you're coming up with.Cory and Matt have reiterated many times that all the Creation Stories of the Pantheons forging their own "universes" are all simultaneously true, inhabiting this "Greater Earth" and being separated by its "Geographical Divides".
Curse Manipulation.BTW, what ability would it be for the Blades of Chaos to constantly keep returning back to its owner as form of a curse?
Yes.Question, Would these New 2-C upgrades backscale to Previous God of War Titles?
It's well established throughout the game that Kratos is a shell of his former self and is not comparable to his peak in GOW 3 so shouldn't they get 2-C ratings as well? I know this is a slippery slope on who would scale but at the very least Zeus would be 2-C based on fighting Kratos at his most powerful
Nice, we just need to figure out who all would scale to it.Yes.
The only one using headcanon here is you. Read the tweets Crisis posted.They literally say that it's all on one Earth. Those are their words. You're just using headcanon now.
And? That's where he shows the Pantheons to be separate.He's comparing the relationship between galaxies and the universe in the Hubble image to the various lands and the Earth in the games. He could not more clearly be talking about the cosmology.
Because if they did it'd be a ******* leading question. Instead they asked questions regarding what already exists in the game.That is what you consider a leading question? Outright asking how big the setting is? Bro have you seen Kratos's profile? That thing is full of vague and leading questions. His entire speed stat is based off of a leading question of because whoever was asking was too scared to outright ask how fast Kratos is.
You do realize that what you're demanding is literally the very definition of leading questions, right? They ask stuff outside of the things used in the game and other source material.That entire list of WoG posted is full of vague and leading questions. How about this, maybe for once the people in charge should just outright ask how strong and fast Kratos is supposed to be. "Is Kratos faster than light? Can Kratos destroy infinite universe or is he at that level of strength where he can beat people who can? Are Greece and Midgard part of the same Earth sized planet or are they two entirely different universes?"
See that? That's simple.
Care to check the "Greater Universe" tweet again please?Also it doesn't contradict anything and is actually supported by the game. The writers say that it's all one Earth. The characters say that it's all one Earth.
No. It's just them moving really fast.Well it's a good thing that nothing in Ragnarok involves the sun, moon, and stars since Skoll and Hatti don't end up eating the sun and moon and nobody would scale to them anyway since it's pretty clear that outside of their weird energy forms when they fly in the sky they're just regular giant wolves.
Already you're ruining your own argument. The Sisters having control of all time within that land proves it to be separate from the rest of the lands. If it were not separate it would affect the rest of the Pantheons too.Yes, the Sisters of Fate have threads that span all life and time within Greece. I didn't realize I had to tell you this but the devs aren't psychic and didn't realize that they'd me making games set in the Norse lands decades later when they made mentions of the world in the first games. The Gods had dominion over their lands and nothing beyond it.
And you don't get the fact that this "Earth" is not the ordinary Earth. It's clearly much more massive in scope as the tweets Crisis has just sent you (Which I am more than happy to say are actually legitimate). But you do you, I suppose.So your argument is when they are saying that the entire setting takes place on Earth that's divided by geography that they are not actually saying that at all but are instead saying something completely different? When they say geographical divides, it's pretty damn clear that they're talking about geographical divides and not whatever headcanon you're coming up with.
I'm not gonna continue this since clearly it won't go anywhere but I wanted to make my response to yours at the very least.
I already have a much more HD render that almost goes over Fandom's wiki size limits LOLKratos
Kratos (Greek: Κράτος) is the titular playable protagonist of Sony Santa Monica Studio's acclaimed God of War series. Born and raised among the violent Spartans, Kratos rose through the ranks to become a fearsome general, winning many wars under his command. However, they eventually encountered...vsbattles.fandom.com
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You say that as if the creation lore and all historical events of inside each Pantheon don't involve celestial and cosmic objects.Well it's a good thing that nothing in Ragnarok involves the sun, moon, and stars since Skoll and Hatti don't end up eating the sun and moon and nobody would scale to them anyway since it's pretty clear that outside of their weird energy forms when they fly in the sky they're just regular giant wolves.
Spans all creation.Yes, the Sisters of Fate have threads that span all life and time within Greece. I didn't realize I had to tell you this but the devs aren't psychic and didn't realize that they'd me making games set in the Norse lands decades later when they made mentions of the world in the first games. The Gods had dominion over their lands and nothing beyond it.
W or LI already have a much more HD render that almost goes over Fandom's wiki size limits LOL
W on my part, L on yours.W or L
He was mentioned in RagnarokSo apparently Forseti, God of Justice and Reconciliation exists in GOW. That's strange because he's Baldur's son, and we all know due to his curse he can't have kids. Maybe he was born before the curse? Or maybe he's not Baldur's son in GOW? Apparently he was cut from Ragnarok, and was supposed to be a forensics type guy.
YupYeah he was. Thrud mentioned him, and I think it's said he was the one who discovered Heimdall's corpse
Yeah like I said earlier. The entire game felt like it just rushed through the entire Norse pantheon in order to set up the New Kratos's journey.Bruh I really hope they do an expansion.
There's so many gods they mentioned in 4 that never even show up
Richard Gaubert confirmed in a PlayStation developmental update video that they debated a lot on whether the Norse saga should ultimately be a duology or trilogy, and Cory ultimately decided that it shouldn't be a trilogy as he didn't want the players to wait for 5 more years to get to play the 3rd part (making the entire trilogy span nearly 15 years). Cory also said later on that the story of Ragnarok and the concerned character arcs can easily be completed in one game.Yeah like I said earlier. The entire game felt like it just rushed through the entire Norse pantheon in order to set up the New Kratos's journey.
I definitely feel like there was a third game planned for the Norse pantheon that got cut
That was definitely the case. I imagine it was by and large caused by the gameplay not having many more ways to evolve without changing how it fundamentally works.Yeah like I said earlier. The entire game felt like it just rushed through the entire Norse pantheon in order to set up the New Kratos's journey.
I definitely feel like there was a third game planned for the Norse pantheon that got cut
Another reason they mentioned is that they wanted people who only had ps4s get to experience the full story of the Norse world and a third game would've likely been too technically advanced for the ps4. Completely ridiculous but whatever.Richard Gaubert confirmed in a PlayStation developmental update video that they debated a lot on whether the Norse saga should ultimately be a duology or trilogy, and Cory ultimately decided that it shouldn't be a trilogy as he didn't want the players to wait for 5 more years to get to play the 3rd part (making the entire trilogy span nearly 15 years). Cory also said later on that the story of Ragnarok and the concerned character arcs can easily be completed in one game.
Yeah this reason is ridiculous. By then I imagine most folks will have PS5Another reason they mentioned is that they wanted people who only had ps4s get to experience the full story of the Norse world and a third game would've likely been too technically advanced for the ps4. Completely ridiculous but whatever.
Nope. But to each and their own.It was definitely rushed.
But this means one thing and one thing only.
We're closer to the future sagas
It was also Mid StorywiseNope. But to each and their own.
The story was much better than any GoW game, including GoW 2018. But, again, agree to disagree.It was also Mid Storywise
Very well, 2018 will always be my pick.The story was much better than any GoW game, including GoW 2018. But, again, agree to disagree.