So you refuse to actually address my point which you have not actually argued against beyond being wilfully ignorant.
That’s not an argument from ignorance at all. For me to be arguing from ignorance, I have to be the one making the claim. I’m not. I read the scans and said what’s on them. You are the one making the claim by conflating the seals of Muken to the ones on Aizen and saying that Aizen’s seals weaken Zanpakuto powers when those seals already have stated functions.
Kenpachi Asashiro removed the seal on Aizen's eye in the novel that happened before the TYBW arc. Aizen had both eyes sealed when he was placed in Muken before the Fullbring Arc.
I did, and its simply a manner of scrolling up to see my response to that, and instead of properly refuting what I said, you decided to appeal to an argument of repetition.
You did make a claim, you implied because they are only shown to restrict sight movement and speech and not stated to be the one weakening his zanpakuto, therefore those seals couldn't have possibly also weakened his zanpakuto, which is fallacious as explained before.
thats only 1 seal
there are basically 2 seals
he already used it on muken, which is why this thread got made
I would disagree. The seals on himself kept him there and he still needed some of them to be removed before he could fully act, aka when Shunsui took some off and he broke out of the rest. Unless I'm misremembering, then he used them before he got out of the seals.
You can’t.
Ehm, no. Unless the powernull has some specific mechanics that justify it 7-B powernull can't be claimed to work on a 3-A character, for example.
Mayuri and Kisuke are stated capable of using technology on Aizen level opponents in the CFYOW novels. So no Aizen can’t brute force his way through Mayuri’s tech.
For 1, there’s the next piece of that same paragraph: and a character may be resistant to the ability (at least in one of its forms), preventing it from having its usual effects.
Both things can be true, but obviously you need proof if you want to show that it is resistance and not just overpowering it. Overpowering it alone doesn't warrant the resistance.
The fact that he could use it basically proves that the technology did, in fact, not reach his level. If it did he wouldn't have been able to use it.
No I don’t? We’re given no indication this is a power related thing. Other bleach tech can work on Aizen and his equals, which would support that he can’t simply brute force his way past tech. There’s more reason to treat this as resistance than anything else based on the evidence. I’m pretty sure we normally assume resistance as opposed to overpowering anyway, but if this doesn’t go through then whatever, it’s not a major arg of mine.
They had to release part of the seals in order for him to do that. Aizen can’t break out from the full powered tech on his own, proving its on his level.
Sorry for the double post, but my previous post misinterpreted this and may create more confusion, so i’l clarify. You’re trying to say that because Aizen used his sword bleach tech doesn’t scale to him. The seals that power null (which is why we’re suggesting resistance, the ones in Muken) are not the same seals that restrain Aizen’s reiatsu (the ones he can’t break out of without help, His black suit). You’re response is not a defeater. What we’re trying to say is that Aizen can’t brute force his way through Bleach tech, so it has to be resistance.
. It’s simplest to say they’re relative as it’s the same nation and same people who made them both.
Not every powernull is hax and two wrongs don't make a right.
What you are arguing here is mere lack of counter evidence. No proof of it being the case. As you carry the burden of proof you need more than that.
Which proves absolutely nothing about the comparison to the not fully powered tech in which he could do the things he did.
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I’ve done this before.
You say that now until you’re hit with “I’m not opening that, post it regularly”
Being real for a second. I f****** hate when people say this. No, there are people who haven't read it, which is why you as the knowledge user post the damn scan! This "have you read [insert thing here]?" question is stupid because you know the answer. Half of the stuff people comment on be it a staff member or a normal member is verses they don't know which is why context is needed otherwise people can add whatever they desire under the logic of "I know it and you don't".
Also, let's drop the argument of other hax, not working on stronger people as some sort of counter argument. Power Nullification is a haxed ability that "at times" requires more evidence in regards to what it does and how effective it is, for example. I nullified an explosion from a grenade, does this mean I'd be able to nullify an explosion that would destroy the universe? No, that reaches NLF. It's all about the abilities showings in this example. It's different from let's say Blood Manipulation because blood is blood, be it from a Tier 10 character to a Tier 2 character. If I can pull the blood out of one of said characters body, I can do it too the other as it has no connection to power in general. Now this isn't to say all power nullification is like this, but there clearly is a need for feats when dealing with specific kinds.
Eh. I don’t think this is really analagous. The Muken seals null powers that aren’t really AP based, and straight up doesn’t null AP. You’re analogy has an ability that nulls AP trying to null potentially Tier 2 AP. I don’t think it’s an NLF to say a 10-B’s power null could work on a 5-B’s abilities if it’s an ability based null as it logically shouldn’t work in relation to AP, and the 5-B thus wouldn’t be able to resist it without feats, whilst yours would be NLF on the powernull. It’s as you said, all in the mechanics. The 5-B 10-B analogy I presented is more apt here than your analogy.
That's why I said "at times" and not all power null is the same. My analogy was literally based around AP, not the Aizen that you used. I was explaining the argument regarding those trying to compare hax to AP in general to show the difference. I have no issue with Aizen resisting the seals.
