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Girls Are Now Revising, Please Wait Warmly (Touhou Revisions... Yet Again)

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Miko

Cloth Manipulation
from using her cape as a weapon.

Immortality (Type 6) from being able to transfer her soul to a new object in the case of her death. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Mononobe no Futo) This would also apply to Futo and Seiga, as they are also considered shikaisen.

Weapon Mastery with her shaku.

Some scans (Ten Desires, Reimu's Ending/Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 18/Urban Legend in Limbo, Reisen's Scenario) for Information Analysis, showing that she is capable of deducing power levels and the traits of magical objects with a glance.

A scan for Light Manipulation, showing that it’s passive and makes her hard to look at (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 18) due to how blindingly beautiful she is. Additionally, many of her spell cards utilize light.

Portal Creation from opening holes in space.

Transmutation and Explosion Manipulation from transmuting human emotions into light and making them explode. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-8)

Reimu

Platform Creation
from Floating Wall Jump letting her create footholds in midair.

Weapon Control from making her gohei spin on its own.

Afterimage Creation, as she can create afterimages while flying.

Status Effect Inducement from Cautionary Border stunning enemies.

Enhanced Senses from seeing Kasen’s invisible, nonexistent true form. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 48)

Hammerspace from storing giant yin-yang orbs “who-the-heck-knows-where”. (Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu Hakurei's Spell Cards)

Subjective Reality from being able to form barriers solely from her will.

Transmutation from being able to turn tsukumogami back into inanimate objects. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 12)

Empathic Manipulation from being able to perform divination/fortune telling, which requires controlling emotions. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 25)

Clairvoyance in her summoning key since she can summon a divine spirit to answer questions. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 27)

Death Manipulation in her summoning key from being able to taint the Lunar Capital with the concept of death. (Silent Sinner in Blue, Chapter 17)

More Limited Power Nullification, as her ofuda can destroy enemy projectiles (Highly Responsive to Prayers, Manual) and she can break through magical barriers the same way she does for seals. (Perfect Cherry Blossom, Marisa's B Ending)

Resistance to Power Mimicry, as her techniques are unique to her and cannot be copied or used as reference. (Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu Hakurei's Spell Cards)

Resistance to Illusion Creation, as she was able to see through a tanuki’s illusion easily. (Oriental Sacred Palace, Chapter 11)

Resistance to Gravity Manipulation and Social Influencing, as the laws of gravity and threats of power mean nothing to her. (Imperishable Night, Manual) She is also stated to defy gravity, and that she cannot be tied down, (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Reimu Hakurei) and it is also said that the influence of multiple factions within Gensokyo means nothing to her. (Curiosities of Lotus Asia, Chapter 30)

But as an extension of this, she should also get passive Statistics Manipulation that equalizes her opponent’s stats to her own. After all, it is directly stated that the reason such threats of power mean nothing to her is that she evens out whatever status one has.

More Physics Manipulation (or perhaps resistance to physics manipulation?) justifications, as her attacks are repeatedly (Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu Hakurei's Spell Cards) stated to ignore the laws of physics.

Marisa

Fungus Manipulation
from causing mushrooms to sprout out from the ground as an attack.

Weapon Mastery for her broomstick, since she is able to effectively use it as an improvised weapon, even while simultaneously using it for flight. That gif is just an example, but most of her basic attacks in fighting games from 13.5 onward are similar in nature.

Afterimage Creation from “Illusion Laser” producing an afterimage that continues to damage enemies.

Precognition from predicting the events of Imperishable Night hours ahead of time. (Imperishable Night, omake.txt)

Sealing from sealing one of her own spell cards away.

Damage Boost, Size Manipulation, and Limited Invulnerability via her unique HM gimmick, Three-Tiered Embellishment Magic. (Hopeless Masquerade, Marisa's Profile)

Stealth from sneaking into Eientei, even when it was heavily guarded. (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapters 13, 14, & 15)

Transformation from claiming she could transform herself with magic. (Strange Creators of Outer World, Imperishable Night Cross Review)

Absorption, Power Nullification, and Transmutation from being able to absorb or drain magic from her enemies, and turn their attacks into spirit power.

Also, remove her intelligence justification of ‘hinted to be a math genius’, that comes from this statement, which is obviously just a way of saying it’s taking her a while to get to her destination.

Finally, her weaknesses section should mention that she’s weak to cold temperatures.

Sakuya

Turns out she does have Weapon Creation, from Misdirection. Oops.

Teleportation from Vanishing Everything. Yeah, I know it’s the common perception that Sakuya’s teleportation is just her moving in stopped time, but the card description states that she stops time and THEN teleports.

Explosion Manipulation from throwing exploding knives.

Kasen

Cloth Manipulation
from being able to use her arm wrappings as a weapon. There are a lot more examples on her koumakan page.

Invisibility for her oni form, given that she seems surprised that Reimu is able to see it. That, and she also calls it nonexistent. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 48)

Illusion Creation from seemingly making illusions of everybody at the Hakurei Shrine. Note that the illusions disappear when Kasen waves her hand slightly, so this isn’t just Reimu hallucinating. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 48)

Murasa

Weapon Creation from summoning anchors to attack her foes.

Weapon Mastery with her anchor because, well, just ******* look at her go.

Teleportation as seen here.

Ichirin

Unzan should get Energy Projection/Heat Manipulation from having laser eyes.

Intangibility, also for Unzan. He’s literally a ******* cloud, and Sakuya says she can’t touch him. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-6)

Rage Power (this one actually applies to Ichirin) due to her HM gimmick letting her enter a ‘rage mode’ after taking enough damage, which drastically increases her power. (Hopeless Masquerade, Ichirin's Profile)

Damage Reduction, as when Unzan is out in front, Ichirin will take reduced damage. (Hopeless Masquerade, Ichirin's Profile)

Curse Manipulation and BFR with her Urban Legend. (Urban Legend in Limbo, Ichirin's Profile)

Byakuren

Paralysis Inducement
from this spell card.

Enhances Senses and Resistance to Fire/Heat Manipulation from her chants allowing her to sharpen her senses and withstand a blazing furnace. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Byakuren Hijiri)

Afterimage Creation as shown here (and a clearer picture of the afterimages, if needed).

Futo

Summoning
from summoning a boat.

Light Manipulation from making trails of light with her boat. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-7)

Energy Projection since Sakuya refers to her danmaku as energy bullets. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-7)

Statistics Reduction, since her fire can reduce one’s physical strength. (Hopeless Masquerade, Futo's Profile)

Yukari

Creation
to go along with her conceptual manipulation. Boundaries are the same as names, and when giving a name to something, it is essentially creating something from nothing. (Curiosities of Lotus Asia, Chapter 17) Akyuu even says her ability is one of creation and destruction, and can create a new existence. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Yukari Yakumo)

Fusionism, as boundaries essentially separate objects, spaces, and concepts from one another, and removing those boundaries entirely would be akin to mixing them together into a single undefined form. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Yukari Yakumo)

Dimensional Storage from storing stuff in gaps. (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapter 10)

Attack Reflection from this.

An actual Enhanced Senses feat and not just scaling to Maribel: She can see the flow of energy. (Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, Youmu's Scenario)

Gravity Manipulation from Barrier “Charming Quadruple Barrier” sucking enemies in.

Biological Manipulation from being able to manipulate the boundary of humans and youkai, (Seasonal Dream Vision, A Beautiful Flower Blooming Violet Every Sixty Years) and suggesting she could decisively determine the species of Mai and Satono using this. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-7)

Vector Manipulation from being able to control the boundary of motion and stillness, and she can create perpetual motion machines. (Grimoire of Marisa, Yukari Yakumo's Spell Cards)

Mathematics Manipulation, since similarly to Ran, she can ‘control’ math equations in the same way one would control a shikigami. (Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red, Ran's Article) What’s funny is that I’ve seen people argue for her having this ability for totally unrelated and invalid reasons, so this is furthering the trend of “all Touhou wank is valid but not for the reasons everyone says it is”.

Animal Manipulation from using butterflies in her danmaku, just like Yuyuko. (Grimoire of Marisa, Yukari Yakumo's Spell Cards)

Empathic Manipulation for the same reason as Reimu listed above.

More Resistance to Power Nullification, as she can still use her boundary manipulation in the Hakurei Shrine, (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapter 10) which nullifies all foreign boundaries. (Perfect Cherry Blossom, omake.txt) Way better than her weird gap energy reserves or whatever.

Resistance to Power Mimicry as Yukari’s boundary manipulation is stated to be essentially unique to her, as someone who wants to copy it must either be Yukari herself or be able to withstand the pressure it exerts. (Imperishable Night, Manual)

Remove Sealing, since 1. We don’t actually know if she can trap people in stories or lower dimensions and 2. That’d just be BFR/Immersion, sealing isn’t even the right ability to use here. If you wanna be really generous, you could argue that since she’s one of the only people who knew about Yuyuko’s past, that means she was the one who sealed the Saigyou Ayakashi, but there’s very little to indicate that being the case.

Yuyuko

Possession
, from firing ghosts that possess her opponent.

Animal Manipulation from using butterflies and moths in her danmaku. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-1/Grimoire of Marisa, Yuyuko Saigyouji's Spell Cards)

Plant Manipulation and Air Manipulation from using cherry petals in her danmaku and blowing them towards her opponent with a gust of wind. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-1)

Patchouli

Crystal Manipulation
from this, as well as the spell card version of the attack.

Weapon Creation shaping metal into swords.

Adhesive Manipulation from this.

Remilia

Weapon Creation
from making spears out of nothing.

Natural Weaponry with her claws.

Biological Manipulation from being able to turn people into half-human half-youkai hybrids. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Remilia Scarlet)

Crystal Manipulation, as her mist is composed of high-density jewels. (Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red, Remilia's Article)

Power Bestowal, since inhaling the mist she turns into after being destroyed by sunlight makes you immortal. (Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, Reimu's Ending A) Should also apply to Flandre, as this seems to be more of a natural consequence of vampire physiology than anything unique to Remilia.

Mokou (+ IN Cast)

Resistance to Pain Manipulation
from constantly feeling pain, even when she just moves, yet still being able to act and fight unaffected. (Urban Legend in Limbo, Mokou's Scenario) However, in spite of this, the IN cast was able to damage her to such an extent that Mokou had to give up due to the pain from their attacks, (Imperishable Night, All Extra Stage Scenarios) so they should all get Limited Pain Manipulation (Kiryu gets it for basically the same reason so idk why it wouldn’t apply here :v).

Stealth for the same reasons as Marisa.

Koishi

Body Control
from manipulating her third eye cord as a weapon.

Her stamina should be 'Superhuman, likely Infinite', as she seemingly does not feel tired. (Hopeless Masquerade, Koishi's Scenario)

Wakasagihime

Free Movement
from swimming in rain. Note that this is NOT just flight, since Sanae seems impressed by it. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-1)

Explosion Manipulation from creating explosions. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-1)

Star Sapphire

Fire Manipulation
from this. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-2)

Kagerou

Darkness Manipulation
from creating wolf shadows. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-3)

Shizuha

Light Manipulation
from making leaves glow by dancing. Probably the world’s least useful application of this ability. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-3)

Minoriko

Light Manipulation
from projecting light. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-3)

Raiko

Explosion Manipulation
from throwing out exploding drums. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-5)

Satori

Explosion Manipulation
from making explosions. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-7)

Weakness additions, as reading human minds too much can make her feel sick, (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapter 14) and being exposed to too many disembodied thoughts can make her feel dizzy and pass out. (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapter 7)

Tenshi

Explosion Manipulation
from throwing out exploding Keystones. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-9)

Sealing from sealing off an opponent’s ability to benefit from the weather. Weather in SWR grants passive buffs/changes to both characters, so this is essentially sealing off any passive positive effects her opponent could benefit from. The Sword of Hisou should also get this, since the description says it’s one of its powers.

Power Nullification from being able to break through the seals that Hermits place over their personal Senkai. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 46)

Electricity Manipulation from summoning lightning.

Sanae

Vibration Manipulation
from Reimu claiming one of her spell cards generates a giant shockwave. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-10)

Minor Organic Manipulation from being able to make sour foods sweet. (Grimoire of Marisa, Sanae Kochiya's Spell Cards)

Suwako

Explosion Manipulation
from making frogs explode. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 1-10)

Body Control from extending her limbs. (Grimoire of Marisa, Suwako Moriya's Spell Cards)

Seija

Gravity Manipulation
(?) from flipping heaven and earth. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-1)

Parsee

Damage Boost
from dealing extra damage to people with a lot of sympathy. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-1)

Nue

Summoning
from summoning danmaku from another world. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-4)

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) and Physics Manipulation from manipulating the boundary of particle and continuum. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-4)

Komachi

Teleportation
, as seen here. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 3)

Transmutation from converting the value of a person’s life into money which she then uses as danmaku. (Grimoire of Marisa, Komachi Onozuka's Spell Cards)

Seiga

Underwater Breathing (Type 2) from spending days inside a waterspout totally fine. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 12)

Aya

Camouflage and Plant Manipulation
from being able to create a large number of leaves to obscure herself. (Grimoire of Marisa, Aya Shameimaru's Spell Cards)

Afterimage Creation from moving so fast that it appears that there are 2 of her. (Chara☆Mel, Mountain of Faith interview with ZUN)

Eirin

Add the ‘crossed Kaguya’s infinite corridor’ stuff to her speed justifications, as the IN protagonists are explicitly trailing behind her and she manages to reach the end before them.

Resurrection from creating drugs that brought Reimu back from the dead. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 46) We know she actually died because she’s standing on the riverbank of the Sanzu River, which is where everyone goes when they die (we even see Komachi looking for her soul, but is unable to find it because she’s already been brought back to life).

Nitori

Explosion Manipulation
through various attacks.

Hammerspace from fitting things like a propeller, an anchor, a speaker system, and a sawblade much larger than her own body in a seemingly normal backpack.

Status Effect Inducement from her speaker systems being able to stun people.

Enhanced Senses, as kappa are able to feel the lifeforce present within a river. (Visionary Fairies in Shrine, Chapter 12)

Yamame

Construction
, as SoPM notes that this is something she specializes in. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Yamame Kurodani)

Air Manipulation from creating miasmas. (Grimoire of Marisa, Yamae Kurodani's Spell Cards)

Orin

Stealth
from being able to steal corpses from funerals undetected. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Rin Kaenbyou)

Yuuma

Healing
since her fights against Reimu and Shion strongly suggest she can recover more quickly due to her absorption.

Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Purification, and Transmutation, since as souls travel deeper underground, they will slowly be purified and eventually crystalize by the time they reach Hell. Naturally, this means all characters who have survived going to Hell resist these effects (because they aren’t dead). As Yuuma’s boss fight takes place in Hell, this means she gets these resistances as well.

Youmu + Her Swords

Purification (Type 3) and Minor Pain Manipulation
with Hakurouken, as it can dispel confusion, though doing so will cause pain and discomfort. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Youmu Konpaku)

Should also mention on the equipment page for the swords that Hakurouken can only be handled by the Konpaku family.

Immortality Negation (Type 4) from being able to sever the cycle of transmigration. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Yuyuko Saigyouji)

Letty Whiterock

Cold Resistance and Empathic Manipulation
from being unaffected from cold temperatures in light clothing, and her cold manipulation making one lose the will to fight. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Letty Whiterock)

Yuuka

Resistance to Radiation
via her parasol, which can cut out UV rays. (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Yuuka Kazami)

Eternity

Smoke Manipulation
from generating a smokescreen. (Visionary Fairies in Shrine, Chapter 15)

Goliath Doll

Inorganic Physiology
(Type 2). It’s a ******* doll.

Utsuho

Madness Manipulation, Light Manipulation, and Status Effect Inducement
from being able to make one go mad from looking into her eyes, and being so bright that just looking at her can cause blindness. (Subterranean Animism, Marisa and Patchouli's Scenario, Stage 6)

Resistance to Transmutation, Soul Manipulation, and Purification for the same reasons as Yuuma (see above).

Iku

Light Manipulation
from shooting bullets of light. (Grmoire of Marisa, Iku Nagae's Spell Cards)

Medicine

Smoke Manipulation
from this. (Grimoire of Marisa, Medicine Melancholy's Spell Cards)

Ran

Body Puppetry
from controlling her slave-type spell cards remotely. (Grimoire of Marisa, Ran Yakumo's Spell Cards)

Mathematics Manipulation for the same reasons as Yukari, shown above. Note that this scan would also be a backing High 3-A feat for the mention of Ran being amped infinitely by Yukari.

Kokoro

Duplication
from being able to create ghostly replications of herself.

Enhanced Senses from being able to see emotions. (Antinomy of Common Flowers, Nitori's Scenario)

Joon

Possession Negation since she can forcefully expel somebody possessing someone else just by punching really hard.

Broadway Force from this.

Suika

Breaking the Fourth Wall
from shattering the UI in her boss fight.

Her range needs to be downgraded from High Universal. We agreed long ago that what she shattered/repaired in BAiJR wasn’t Heaven as in the entire realm itself, but rather the canopy of the heavens; Now, since the canopy blankets the entire sky, it should still be in the hundreds of kilometers, or if for some reason we don’t use that, her mind control was able to affect all of Gensokyo, which is likely at least tens of kilometers wide. Also, High Universal isn’t even a range category.

Reisen

Light Absorption
and further justifications for Sound Manipulation, as she invented a device that absorbs moonlight and emits ultrasonic waves. This is also a fairly impressive intelligence feat, and would likely be enough to bump her up to Gifted. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 21)

Animal Manipulation, as she says that communicating with rats is ‘trivial’ using her ability. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 21)

As an additional use of her Mind Manipulation, she can seemingly control people’s minds, which she used to goad Kosuzu into buying a cat statue. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 21)

Technology Manipulation, since her power caused Aya’s camera to stop working.

Mamizou

Small additions for Fire Manipulation and Sealing, since she can transform into a bonfire (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 5) and seal away a chupacabra. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 7)

Yoshika

Resistance to Organic Manipulation
, as she has an anti-decomposition spell placed on her. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Yoshika Miyako)

Immunity to Mind Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation, since she lacks the ability to think or feel. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Yoshika Miyako)

Shinmyoumaru

Statistics Amplification & Empathic Manipulation
from the Miracle Mallet, which increases the strength of humans, youkai, and tools while also making them more aggressive.

Small Size (Type 1). I know the pages are outdated but how do you genuinely forget to give the character whose entire gimmick is being small this ability. She’s literally called an inchling for ****’s sake. Ask me for scans and I will kill you with a brick.

Luna Child

Enhanced Senses
from being sensitive to small noises and hearing things the other fairies can’t. (Visionary Fairies in Shrine, Chapter 1)

17.5 Cast

All of them get Transmutation, as they are able to turn bullets they graze into water. (Touhou Gouyoku Ibun, Manual) Joon, Shion, and Flandre transmute bullets into oil (this is also why I didn’t add water manipulation to them beforehand, my bad for forgetting to double check that).

Further Phantom Resistances

Missed a few spots from last time, this’ll be pretty simple. Phantoms have the ability to passively alter or even crush the minds of anybody they come near; The characters below, having evidently kept their sanity despite their proximity to phantoms, should resist this passive mind/empathic manipulation. The basis for these resistances has already been accepted, this is just applying it to characters who should've gotten it the first time around.

Kyouko, Futo, Miko, Tojiko: All fight Youmu in TD.

Akyuu, Kosuzu, and Mamizou: Were sitting right next to Youmu in a chapter of FS.

Kutaka, Eika, and Keiki: All fight Youmu in WBaWC. For Kutaka, she also summons a bunch of phantoms in 17.5.

Prismriver Sisters & Seiga: Are near Youmu in her HM stage cameo

Yuuma: Fought Murasa in 17.5.

Ringo, Seiran, Mamizou: Are near Youmu in a chapter of VFiS.

Reimu, Kasen, and Tenshi

Resistance to Sense Manipulation
from being able to see and feel within Avici, which removes these senses entirely. (Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 48)

IaMP Cast

Everybody creates afterimages when they dash, so Afterimage Creation. The clip only shows Reimu and Marisa but I can find footage for everyone else if necessary.

Look forward to approximately 3487537564 more CRTs down the line, the revision train never stops.
 
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Everything seems fine from what I can see. I may look through more carefully later though, but for now I agree with the changes.

We have to figure out Suika's range when she enters big boi mode still
 
We have to figure out Suika's range when she enters big boi mode still
Just put 'higher with size manipulation' after her melee range, idk if we can put an exact number on it since the distance she can reach would vary. Probably wouldn't exceed a few meters based on what she's shown, though.
 
I think that's all the needed references? The rest are mostly just gameplay footage or spell card descriptions outside of GoU/GoM, so excluding them should hopefully be fine.
 
I'm just now realizing that this would also qualify as BFR for Yuyuko, since she can send souls to Higan.
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Hope you don't mind me here.

Idk much about the verse but based on what is presented on this thread, i agree.

Probably need to read it again just in case.
 
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Bump

Also no need to worry about not being knowledgeable, everyone is welcome to give input god knows we need it given how little attention 2hu threads get.
 
Cool, now we just need staff to show up or someone to object to something so I have something actually interesting to do besides waiting.
 
This is a lot

But i think not controversial or something like that like lot of previous crt


Anyways agreed with everything presented there
 
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