Girls Are Now Revising, Please Wait Warmly (Touhou Revisions... Yet Again)

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

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[Gumball_Ushiromiya]

So many road bumps:v

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

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[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Guess I'll add a few things.

Hatate's age should be at least 130 years old. She remembers the ocean, which means she must predate the Hakurei Barrier, as Gensokyo has no oceans.

Reimu should get Limited Deconstruction since her Yin-Yang Orb can instantly disintegrate youkai on contact.

She should also get 'likely many more' at the end of her P&A, since her PCB profile states she has more abilities we've never seen her use.

 

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Thread, huh? Thanks for the bump.

 

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We're at like what, 35 bumps now? Make that 36.

 

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[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

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Thread Sign "Futile Bumps Into Eternity"

 

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If we get to 50 bumps without an evaluation I will buy everyone in this thread an Olive Garden gift card.

 

[Shmooply]

If we get to 50 bumps without an evaluation I will buy everyone in this thread an Olive Garden gift card.

Can I have mozzarella sticks instead?
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[The_Impress]

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If we get to 50 bumps without an evaluation I will buy everyone in this thread an Olive Garden gift card.

sounds good, I'll wait

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Alright so I can buy off staff with promises of Olive Garden, good to know.

 

[The_Impress]

Lol I'm tryinng to see if I can wrangle knowledgeable staff on discord

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Lol I'm tryinng to see if I can wrangle knowledgeable staff on discord

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

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[The_Impress]

rip no one responded.

@Antvasima Can you compel a knowledgeable staff member to input here?

 

[Antvasima]

Sigh. I am very tired of the endless and seemingly not very important Touhou revisions, but alright then.

@Confluctor @LordGriffin1000 @Elizhaa @Saikou_The_Lewd_King @Theglassman12 @Udlmaster @CrimsonStarFallen

Would any of you be willing to take a look here please?

 

[Confluctor]

Since when am I a knowledgeable person on 2hu. Aside from fan arts, idk anything.

But sure, I can check whenever I get some time

 

[Shmooply]

Since when am I a knowledgeable person on 2hu. Aside from fan arts, idk anything.

You WILL play the bullet hells.
You WILL buy the fumo.
You WILL be ensnared by the music.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I'd hardly call 200+ ability additions 'unimportant'. Regardless, I'm fine with waiting for more input, no rush. Guess I'll also chill on revisions for a while after this as well, there are some big WIP ones that need attention.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Sigh. I am very tired of the endless and seemingly not very important Touhou revisions, but alright then.

@Confluctor @LordGriffin1000 @Elizhaa @Saikou_The_Lewd_King @Theglassman12 @Udlmaster @CrimsonStarFallen

Would any of you be willing to take a look here please?

Was about to rant about this thread and it's like but I'm honestly tired of it and I decide not to derail.

I'll comment when I have the time, should be able to give my thoughts tomorrow.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Alright I get it this wiki doesn't like Touhou you don't have to remind me of that fact.

Nobody seems to direct any of this frustration towards comics or shonen despite them being far more heavily 'spammed' on this site. Wonder what that's about.

 

[ÆONS]

I think these upgrades are just fine.

 

[Confluctor]

You WILL play the bullet hells.

Funnily, I just remembered listening to some songs from this album - most notably, Bad Apple and didn't even realise it was 2hu.

Oh no

 

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[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out, Confluctor and LordGriffin.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Miko

Some scans (Ten Desires, Reimu's Ending/Wild and Horned Hermit, Chapter 18/Urban Legend in Limbo, Reisen's Scenario) for Information Analysis, showing that she is capable of deducing power levels and the traits of magical objects with a glance.

I don't see any evidence for Information Analysis. Sensing the power in objects is just Extrasensory Perception, so I disagree with this.

Reimu

Resistance to Power Mimicry, as her techniques are unique to her and cannot be copied or used as reference. (Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu Hakurei's Spell Cards)

Nothing here directly states her techniques can't be copied so I disagree with this. It just says her technique is different.

Resistance to Gravity Manipulation and Social Influencing, as the laws of gravity and threats of power mean nothing to her. (Imperishable Night, Manual) She is also stated to defy gravity, and that she cannot be tied down, (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, Reimu Hakurei) and it is also said that the influence of multiple factions within Gensokyo means nothing to her. (Curiosities of Lotus Asia, Chapter 30)

Resistance to Gravity is fine but unless they actively tried to socially influence her, I don't see resistance.

But as an extension of this, she should also get passive Statistics Manipulation that equalizes her opponent’s stats to her own. After all, it is directly stated that the reason such threats of power mean nothing to her is that she evens out whatever status one has.

Where is this stated in the scan?

More Physics Manipulation (or perhaps resistance to physics manipulation?) justifications, as her attacks are repeatedly (Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu Hakurei's Spell Cards) stated to ignore the laws of physics.

No? It's not breaking the laws of physics in the power sense. It's doing it in the flowery language sense. For example, if I kicked and then teleported so the lock came from another spot, I technically broke the laws of physics because teleportion defies physics, and even flying defies the laws of physics.

Marisa

Fungus Manipulation from causing mushrooms to sprout out from the ground as an attack.

Are the mushrooms those yellow things?

Precognition from predicting the events of Imperishable Night hours ahead of time. (Imperishable Night, omake.txt)

That's not Precognition. Her having a feeling something bad was going to happen and it happens is a common thing in fiction. Precognition is if she had a vision or knew or a fact something was going to happen and or at what time. The scan is just one of those "I got a bad feeling about this" and it happens to be correct. By that logic, countless characters in fiction need Precognition.

Transformation from claiming she could transform herself with magic. (Strange Creators of Outer World, Imperishable Night Cross Review)

It says she can probably transform so I'd say "possibly".

Byakuren

Paralysis Inducement from this spell card.

The way it's described, it sounds like it's a powerful hit and not paralysis. If you were struck by a powerful attack, you'd stop moving to.

Yukari

More Resistance to Power Nullification, as she can still use her boundary manipulation in the Hakurei Shrine, (Cheating Detective Satori, Chapter 10) which nullifies all foreign boundaries. (Perfect Cherry Blossom, omake.txt) Way better than her weird gap energy reserves or whatever.

Disagree, in the scan it states "almost all" boundaries are nullified. So you can say if the ones she's using are included or not. You'd need to show that the boundary she is using has been nullified before by another but her using the same one didn't get nullified.

Resistance to Power Mimicry as Yukari’s boundary manipulation is stated to be essentially unique to her, as someone who wants to copy it must either be Yukari herself or be able to withstand the pressure it exerts. (Imperishable Night, Manual)

This is not resistance. It doesn't say anyone can't copy it, it says you need to be able to withstand it's pressure to wield it or be like her. This is basically saying that even if you can copy it, you'd need the strength to use it. For example, I copy an energy attack that requires immense willpower to use but I lack the willpower to actually use the technique. This isn't resistance to power mimicry, this is just me not having to proper qualifications to use the technique.

Another example. A a soulless robot has the ability to copy energy based attacks but come across someone who's energy attacks require one to be able to manipulate their soul in order to use their type of energy attack. However, the robot lacks a soul and thus cannot properly wield the technique. This doesn't give the character who has the technique resistance to power mimicry in the actual resistance sense.

Patchouli

Adhesive Manipulation from this.

What makes this adhesive manipulation? Do the bubbles stick to the target or trap then inside?

Mokou (+ IN Cast)

Resistance to Pain Manipulation from constantly feeling pain, even when she just moves, yet still being able to act and fight unaffected. (Urban Legend in Limbo, Mokou's Scenario) However, in spite of this, the IN cast was able to damage her to such an extent that Mokou had to give up due to the pain from their attacks, (Imperishable Night, All Extra Stage Scenarios) so they should all get Limited Pain Manipulation (Kiryu gets it for basically the same reason so idk why it wouldn’t apply here :v).

No, she states she's in pain so that means she feels it, but has immense pain tolerance which they eventually overcame. This isn't resistance for her a power for the cast.

Seija

Gravity Manipulation(?) from flipping heaven and earth. (The Grimoire of Usami, Section 2-1)

No, gravity can't flip an entire dimension (unless it's stated to specifically be that power at work), it would be more akin to just Reality Warping.

Yuuma.

Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Purification, and Transmutation, since as souls travel deeper underground, they will slowly be purified and eventually crystalize by the time they reach Hell. Naturally, this means all characters who have survived going to Hell resist these effects (because they aren’t dead). As Yuuma’s boss fight takes place in Hell, this means she gets these resistances as well.

It says this is what happens to spirits. Are the characters all spirits? If not, I don't see it applying to those with a body or those who aren't spirits.

Joon

Possession Negation since she can forcefully expel somebody possessing someone else just by punching really hard.

That's not a possession negation, it's Non-Physical Interaction. She was able to hit someone that was inside another person's body and pull them out. Since the person doing the possession isn't physical at the time.

Suika

Breaking the Fourth Wall from shattering the UI in her boss fight.

What am I suppose to be looking at?

Reisen

Animal Manipulation, as she says that communicating with rats is ‘trivial’ using her ability. (Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 21)

This isn't animal manipulation. One needs to control them in some way, and simply communicating with them isn't enough.

Yoshika

Resistance to Organic Manipulation, as she has an anti-decomposition spell placed on her. (Symposium of Post-mysticism, Yoshika Miyako)

If say it's more akin to Resistance to Corrosion Inducement since that focuses not on decay.

Alright I get it this wiki doesn't like Touhou you don't have to remind me of that fact.

Nobody seems to direct any of this frustration towards comics or shonen despite them being far more heavily 'spammed' on this site. Wonder what that's about.

Bout to be blunt....

When the hell did I say I or the wiki doesn't like Touhou!? I don't know the verse but I never said I dislike it. My comment is towards threads that are a hulking mass of additions which I've made clear on many other threads that aren't Touhou, so please don't put words in my mouth. And have you been on every comic and or anime thread? Let me tell you something, the more popular ones get dumb. All I see is "oh this site hates and downplays comics", "oh what's with the downplay of this anime". So for you to say nobody seems to direct their "frustration" as you call it to either of those is a baseless assumption.

If I'm frustrated at anything, it's the fact that not to long ago some **** stole my ID and is currently trying to use it for their benifet, my home internet is shit and I half to go my ass to another place just to properly evaluate your giant thread, and then get ******* rained on because some asshole stole my umbrella I couldn't even wait for a better day to do this because this is the only time I had free because I'm either doing stuff for my family or working for the rest of this week. Now add in all the revisions I need to get done and for verses that not many others care about, I almost have not time for threads like these. But despite this.

Thank you for helping out, Confluctor and LordGriffin.

No problem, but I'm tiered and need to take a brake so I won't be able to reply back right away. When OP addresses the issues I mentioned about some of the additions, I'll reply when I can.