Ganon vs Sigma REDUX

[TriforcePower1]

As AZ doesn't negate durability anymore, this match needs to be remade as most of Sigma's votes were based on AZ. Also, no prep, just good old SBA (except for speed equalized)

Both have 6 months of preparation

Sigma:

Ganondorf:

Inconclusive:

 

[The_Causality]

>No prep

You just removed the old win con for Sigma

 

[Elizhaa]

Yeah, @The Causality is right as prep time should be added in ike the old match

 

[Wokistan]

He can make a different match with a different set of conditions if he wants. Does the match instantly become a stomp if sigma can't prep or something?

 

[The_Causality]

He can make a different match with a different set of conditions if he wants. Does the match instantly become a stomp if sigma can't prep or something?

It's turn into "Ganon wish and GG no re" so it let probably zero chance for sigma to win.

 

[Schnee_One]

With no prep time Signa's only wincon is impossible to use

And the OP knows (Or at least says repeatedly) that Ganon leads with thought based BFR

In other words, Spite.

 

[Elizhaa]

He can make a different match with a different set of conditions if he wants. Does the match instantly become a stomp if sigma can't prep or something?

I am using the rematch standard here; if it is an appropiated rematch the old match condition would remained the same, @Wokistan. @Wokistan, none is saying that @TriforcePower1 cannot make the matches that he want.

 

[TriforcePower1]

With no prep time Signa's only wincon is impossible to use

And the OP knows (Or at least says repeatedly) that Ganon leads with thought based BFR

In other words, Spite.

Wait, Sigma doesn't have any thought based hax? AZ, virus corruption, nothing?

 

[Schnee_One]

AZ doesn't work. You literally typed it in the OP.

No Virus and Corruption needed prep.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

RIP this fight.

Also, AZ doesn't work unless noted to have some type of Durability Negating property....like MetalGarurumo and I think people said the Saint Seiya people were okay, but don't quote me on that one. Dunno if Sigma has something like that or no.

 

[Wokistan]

Lowering the opponent themselves to 0K works, otherwise it's just better ice.

To be fair though, even regular ice can cause internal damage by causing fluids in cells to expand, blood to not flow properly, etc. This is possible with Absolute Zero as well.

 

[PaChi2]

RIP this fight.

Also, AZ doesn't work unless noted to have some type of Durability Negating property....like MetalGarurumo and I think people said the Saint Seiya people were okay, but don't quote me on that one. Dunno if Sigma has something like that or no.

Saint Seiya's are stated to directly stop the atoms movements, that counts?

 

[TriforcePower1]

AZ doesn't negate durability, doesn't mean it does nothing to someone with comparable AP.

How much prep?

 

[Schnee_One]

Is it comparable?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Weren't both 1.2 KiloFoE?

 

[Schnee_One]

Dunno

 

[TriforcePower1]

I know that Ganon is. But I'm not sure about Sigma anymore as you were the one that told me he was 1.2 KiloFoE

 

[Schnee_One]

No I didn't?

Pretty sure I said he was 1700 Foe

Not sure what that is.

 

[TriforcePower1]

In the Removal of VS threads?

Anyway, how much prep does Sigma need?

 

[Elizhaa]

In the Removal of VS threads?
Anyway, how much prep does Sigma need?

Last time: Both get two years of prep time and can gain knowlage about one another.

So:

• 2-years
• Also, this condition should added as well if this match is a true rematch: both can gain knowlage about one another

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah, I feel like it suits them both being cunning masterminds as well as powerful. That was my intention in the origional match

 

[TriforcePower1]

Is 6 months enough?

 

[The_Smashor]

Probably

 

[Schnee_One]

In the Removal of VS threads?

Anyway, how much prep does Sigma need?

I said 1700 foe if seems

 

[TriforcePower1]

Well, close enough.

Can we debate the thread now?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes.

How many people can Ganondorf yeet into the dark realm at once?

 

[TriforcePower1]

He has big room wide AoE. So all the people in that can fit in there.

 

[The_Smashor]

Sigma wouldn't be stupid enough to put all of his eggs in one basket.

 

[TriforcePower1]

And Ganon with six months of prep isn't stupid enough to go in the frontlines anyway.

He's probably going to get an army of these, several Phantom Ganons, and pretty much most monsters in the The Legend of Zelda verse page.

 

[The_Smashor]

Ah. Well Sigma's probably going to have an army and a half of Mavericks. So then, what's stronger? Mega Man X fodder or LoZ fodder?

As for bosses, Ganon's the only 4-B in his army while most major mavericks are 4-B. The Maverick Virus is so beyond Calmity Ganon shenanigans it's not even funny (Though I'm pretty sure this key dosn't even have that)

 

[The_Smashor]

Also I made a thing

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That works way too well lol

 

[TriforcePower1]

What tier are Megaman fodder? Ganon should have at his disposal a thousand of High 7-A if he manages to mindhax These guys like in ALTTP, some 6-Bs and a 4-B with Agahnim.

 

[The_Smashor]

Sigama has at least 64 4-Bs with the stage bosses alone. This isn't even mentioning reploids like Gate, Dynamo, General or other robots he could definitely infect in a six month time frame. I'd say MMX fodder should be at least comparable to Sniper Joes, who are based on Proto Man's design, so probably 5-A.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Why do bosses scale to EoG X?

Also, why does he need prep exactly? Because giving these two guys prep would make this a half megaman verse vs half Zelda verse, which wouldn't really be Ganon vs Sigma anymore.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

While the fodders fight Ganon BFRs to the gap between dimensions, he's already shown to do that while he was in his castle and Link was all the way at the forest temple.

 

[The_Smashor]

@Triforce

Bosses don't scale to EoG X. They scale do X during the game. Who isn't much weaker than his EoG self.

Because it's a BFR stomp otherwise.

@Giver

Sigma isn't going to just stand in Ganon's BFR range. Both he and Ganon usually let underlings do the work

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Some of the ice weapons that megaman,megaman x and by extension,Sigma has definitions like this:


Ice slasher: It takes the form of an arrowhead-shaped blade of ice that can freeze enemies with a temperature of 200 degrees below zero.

Chill spike:This weapon launches a special freezing gel which flies in a parabolic trajectory. An enemy hit by this liquid may freeze and become unable to move

Tundra storm:With this weapon, Mega Ma is able to damage any enemies directly above and below him by shooting out a large column of snow and cold air. Larger enemies are frozen solid by this attack, and smaller ones are destroyed instantly.

Drift diamonds :It sends out two snowflakes in 45 degree angles. Charged up, snowflakes surround X and freeze any enemy that comes in contact

Goo shaver: X sends out a small wave of icy gel on the floor. This weapon is capable of only scaling down walls and will disappear if it hits an enemy

The weapons specifically says that it freeze the enemy,is not just hitting it with a proyectile made of absolute zero ice

 

[TriforcePower1]

Ice slasher: It takes the form of an arrowhead-shaped blade of ice that can freeze enemies with a temperature of 200 degrees below zero.

Chill spike:This weapon launches a special freezing gel which flies in a parabolic trajectory. An enemy hit by this liquid may freeze and become unable to move

Tundra storm:With this weapon, Mega Ma is able to damage any enemies directly above and below him by shooting out a large column of snow and cold air. Larger enemies are frozen solid by this attack, and smaller ones are destroyed instantly.

Drift diamonds :It sends out two snowflakes in 45 degree angles. Charged up, snowflakes surround X and freeze any enemy that comes in contact

Goo shaver: X sends out a small wave of icy gel on the floor. This weapon is capable of only scaling down walls and will disappear if it hits an enemy

Literally Kep: "There is an enormous difference between directly lowering your opponent's body heat to AZ and hitting them with an attack that is AZ [...] Anyone with sufficiently powerful skin would be able to weather a large Absolute Zero object being tossed at them. And by sufficiently powerful, I mean anything remotely tier 8. [...] Therefore, I propose we drop Durability Negation for any Absolute-Zero wielders, unless said wielders directly manipulate the body heat of their foe through some means, disregarding the need for attacks. Anyone who is AZ via having AZ magical attacks or weapons wouldn't qualify for Durability Negation."

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Are you telling me that a proyectile with the function of freezing the enemy on contact,not causing damage is not lowering the enemy´s body heat?