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I wouldn't say zero knowledge, I used to be a somewhat avid One Piece fan when I was younger, but fell out of it as time went on, so I'd have like, 0.5 knowledge or some shit.
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Funny Monkey vs King Monkey
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GodlyCharmander
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SemanticsB
DaMonkeMan
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Good lord..
The break down is literally like this:
Luffy eats a devil fruit that gives him a body that has every single property of rubber, but seemingly isn't actually rubber. This body allows him to resist any damage from:
A regular person's body
any hard material
Lightning
Bullets and cannon balls
And limited inflating, meaning you can inflate any part of his body but after a certain part it'll start to rip and/or pop, but it can go for a pretty long distance.
In the One Piece world, many people have the ability named "Haki", which allows them to hit people who eat devil fruits, such as Luffy, as if they were normal people. This is obviously durability negation. It should be noted, how ever, that during his fight with Doflamingo, Luffy managed to stop Doflamingo from negating his rubber body via coating it in haki, so his kick was reflected from Luffy's stomach.
GodlyCharmander
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Just so you know. It doesn't make sense because it's a supernatural ability, blunt force just bounces off his skin.
azontr
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Bro I know what Haki and Devil Fruits are I'm not that much of a brainlet-
DaMonkeMan
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Why'd ya ask then
GodlyCharmander
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This literally doesn't matter, just drop the back and forth, let's talk about the fight now.
This 5-page thread has 4 pages of filler
azontr
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I didn't ask what Devil Fruits or Haki were. Like, I never asked that ever. I may have asked how Luffy's internal damage crap and his blunt force resistance worked, but I never asked what the sources of these abilities were as it was obvious to anybody whose watched One Piece to any relevant amount lol.
Good point, and personally, I'd say inconclusive for lack of a better conclusion since I think the fight's rather close despite Luffy's advantages, but correct me if you have a different opinion.
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In true One Piece/God of Highschool fashion. It's getting dragged out to hell
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azontr
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DaMonkeMan
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Still voting luffy because he's broken lol
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Mori's wincon: Skill. Death tap that can be avoided with FS (if he can even get through the rubber physiology to begin with) and big sticc that can also be avoided with FS
Luffy's wincons: Future Sight, nigh-immunity to everything not cutting, enhanced resistance to the point of bypassing even slight pearcing (reshapes to fit the kanabo's spikes), adaptivity and RE (can compete with rokushiki masters in H2H), speed amps, dura neg that actually works, minor regen neg, can restore his stamina to 100 and restart the fight from square one for Mori, transmutation that might cause Luffy to tie Mori into a rubber balloon tbh-
I wanna say incon but Funny Monkey got too much stuff that becomes even MORE too much when he's awakened.
Luffy's wincons: Future Sight, nigh-immunity to everything not cutting, enhanced resistance to the point of bypassing even slight pearcing (reshapes to fit the kanabo's spikes), adaptivity and RE (can compete with rokushiki masters in H2H), speed amps, dura neg that actually works, minor regen neg, can restore his stamina to 100 and restart the fight from square one for Mori, transmutation that might cause Luffy to tie Mori into a rubber balloon tbh-
I wanna say incon but Funny Monkey got too much stuff that becomes even MORE too much when he's awakened.
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I Readed the series 2 years ago give me a break (also i was really not liking the series at that point)
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azontr
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I'd rather it be Mori Dan if that does happen, as Mori Dan's shit can't just be replicated. In a stat equals match as Mori Dan is High 5-A.
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I what...?
DaMonkeMan
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Wait what's with people being said to wank Garou so hard?
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Mori has IR, that allows him to dodge atack far faster than his own speed
Mori doesn't really have anything cut based
He also can evolves from fixing massive problems of a legendary martial arts mid figth (literally 5 seconds after he realized it)
Mori haves a 8x AP amp
And it matters because?
Ok i give you that, but if the figth continues to much mori will simply brings the multipliers
Doesn't that last long anyway? kaido seemed to revert to normal rather quick
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Yu Kanda vs Garou would be fun.... when Gin gets around to revising his intelligence section because i suck ass at skill debates
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I do? I know the series enough to know what i am talking about, minor details like forgetting the name of a character that literally didn't exist in this key doesn't matter to the argument
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azontr
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Your arguments are legit braindead dude lol.
I'll respond to everything in a second.
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Partially countered by Mori's instinctive reactions. Doesn't matter if you see him reacting, you can't stop him from reacting.
Fair. Mori doesn't have cutting or piercing attacks here.
Mori doesn't have cutting or piercing shit in this key so irrelevant.
Elaborate on the potency of this as Mori deadass does the same thing everyday.
Fair.
How regen neg works?
How does this work.
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Ong
azontr
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And no, he does not, it isn't on the profile in a way that allows him to go past 6-A yet. So DO NOT listen to Livinmeme.
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Also AoE means jack shit to Luffy who can dodge liquid explosion that are already somehow in contact with him cleanly without Precognition.
DaMonkeMan
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luffy can restart his heartbeat to the beat of the "drums of liberation". Completely regenerates his staminaPartially countered by Mori's instinctive reactions. Doesn't matter if you see him reacting, you can't stop him from reacting.
Fair. Mori doesn't have cutting or piercing attacks here.
Mori doesn't have cutting or piercing shit in this key so irrelevant.
Elaborate on the potency of this as Mori deadass does the same thing everyday.
Fair.
How regen neg works?
How does this work.
azontr
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Who brought AoE?
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Meme.
azontr
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When and where lmao. If he did then yeah he's wrong, Mori's physical AoE in this key is shit compared to his AoE in later keys that literally crosses solar systems and shit so idk how that even gonna matter.
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one shot amps are a no-no in vs battles
Idk, just in case Mori got regen I guess? Not like Luffy chooses to toggle it on, it's just a haki feature.
8x multipiliers unallowed- the sequel
Yes, when Luffy stopped touching him (pause)
Oof
That was just to elaborate on how much more maluable his body got, not necessarily for piercing resistance
Luffy has zero martial arts training but can fight Rokushiki masters (like Lucci) basically on par after witnessing their style for what seems like seconds and readjusting his fighting style or entirely switching it to force the opponent to fight on his terms, basically. For example- with Zoro he was target Zoro's elbows and forearms to keep him from swinging his blade.
With Lucci he was switching between close range combat, grappling and long range accordingly to readjust and adapt to every rokushiki style out of the 6 that Lucci uses.
With Kaido's drunken Bagua even after saying Kaido's unpredictable, he proceeded to, seconds later, entirely match-up to Kaido again and dragged the fight out once more.
He hits you and then you don't regenerate. Marco can regen half his head getting blown off but can't regen from Garp's haki punch and sustains a bruise/injury
Luffy can apply this to internal organs as well since now he's got Ryuou and can project his haki into others for internal obliteration. Literally, obliteration. He was shown obliterating a chunk of a tree when testing it out at long range, let along close range hits. And his dura neg scales to his regular AP.
He gets tired
He says "Hit that beat, Heart"
Heart does drums of liberation
Luffy's stamina instantly goes back to 100%, without signs of fatigue, and even reduced injury. He also has minor regeneration due to being a Zoan.
azontr
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Just going to quote this, whenever Livin brings this up, DO NOT listen to him.
DaMonkeMan
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I don't listen to him in general. He's the living embodiment of this
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