Fnaf at freddys discussion thread!

[LightSoul8]

And do you want to add three sodding keys into TOYSHK's page? organization is much better, especially since TOYSHK's primary fuckery is seperated from GF's primary fuckery

Also, it would be pretty weird to have Vengeful Spirit and have to separate them from Golden Freddy (UCN) if Golden Freddy and VS shared a page. "Vengeful Spirit can summon Golden Freddy...but they are Golden Freddy?"

Just fricking remove UCN from GF tbh, its the same tabbers with minor tweaks tbh

Hell no. The UCN keys make a lot of characters, like Nightmarionne, actually viable for matches and Golden Freddy isn't going to get an entire key removed because of a theory that has been agreed by almost everyone in this thread as not having enough evidence to stand on its own.

Huh, just thought of something, Michael was scooped thus having a hole in his body so that Ennard could enter him, in the minigames afterwards he doesn't have a hole anymore, and after Ennard exited him, he feel since.....no bones, and then he stood up, thus bones
In Pizzeria Simulator he can be mawled by the animatronics and still go back to work without apparent issue

So i think there is regeneration even for Low Tier Remnant

I thought that was him using his muscles, rather than his bones.

 

[ShionAH]

oh so you want to make TOYSHK 9-C(probably 9-B) phyically?

Why? GF is the physical robot, TOYSHK is NOT physical lil bro

 

[Omegabronic]

Well I strongly believe TOYSHK and GF should merge, they are in the same body

Maybe not, organization is still a thing, maybe just do them in the same Navbox

 

[ShionAH]

Huh, just thought of something, Michael was scooped thus having a hole in his body so that Ennard could enter him, in the minigames afterwards he doesn't have a hole anymore, and after Ennard exited him, he feel since.....no bones, and then he stood up, thus bones
In Pizzeria Simulator he can be mawled by the animatronics and still go back to work without apparent issue

So i think there is regeneration even for Low Tier Remnant

Not sure, Minigames are not really reliable but I'll think bout that

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why? GF is the physical robot, TOYSHK is NOT physical lil bro

But they're the same aren't they~?

 

[LightSoul8]

Maybe not, organization is still a thing, maybe just do them in the same Navbox

I mean, it's still based on speculation. In the Frights, Kelsey is Golden Freddy iirc, whereas Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit.

 

[ShionAH]

But they're the same aren't they~?

They are in the same suit, they are mix of Remnant Idk how that means their Incorp forms are 9-C

 

[ShionAH]

whereas Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit.

Andrews page links to Golden Freddy

 

[LightSoul8]

They are in the same suit, they are mix of Remnant Idk how that means their Incorp forms are 9-C

Also, what would merging the two even do? Give Golden Freddy a couple of new abilities that he'd never use in-character unless he was specifically in the circumstances of UCN? Because in that case, the profiles may as well be separate anyways.

 

[ShionAH]

Also, what would merging the two even do? Give Golden Freddy a couple of new abilities that he'd never use in-character unless he was specifically in the circumstances of UCN? Because in that case, the profiles may as well be separate anyways.

It would literally allow GF to stick to people and make their own UCNs, thats badass

 

[LightSoul8]

It would literally allow GF to stick to people and make their own UCNs, thats badass

But Golden Freddy doesn't do that; GF just kills people.

 

[ShionAH]

But Golden Freddy doesn't do that; GF just kills people.

Yeah but it means GF CAN do that, if he cannot get rid of his enemy

Its literally a BFR and Sealing

 

[DaReaperMan]

They are in the same suit, they are mix of Remnant Idk how that means their Incorp forms are 9-C

The UCN key is for the GF in UCN. If you want that key removed and them merged, TOYSHK needs to be 9-C physically

 

[LightSoul8]

The simple fact is that there simply isn't enough solid evidence that GF is TOYSNHK. Believe me, we've had this debate before.

 

[Omegabronic]

Also, it would be pretty weird to have Vengeful Spirit and have to separate them from Golden Freddy (UCN) if Golden Freddy and VS shared a page. "Vengeful Spirit can summon Golden Freddy...but they are Golden Freddy?"

tbf, he never summons normal Golden Freddy, only the Withered version, the normal one only appears in that final cutscene, i do believe we have enough to at least put a "possibly The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" in Golden Freddy's profile, but meh, not like it changes much that is relevant

I thought that was him using his muscles, rather than his bones.

pretty sure if something entered your body so violently that destroyed your bones and organs....your muscles would have been torn apart as well, thus unusable the hole point still stands regardless tho

Not sure, Minigames are not really reliable but I'll think bout that

i mean, William breaking the animatronics in the minigame is considered enough for a "possibly" rating, i believe this is the same deal, also they are still depicting what happened, even if not litterally

 

[LightSoul8]

tbf, he never summons normal Golden Freddy, only the Withered version, the normal one only appears in that final cutscene, i do believe we have enough to at least put a "possibly The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" in Golden Freddy's profile, but meh, not like it changes much that is relevant

Golden Freddy's page merges his FNAF 1 and FNAF 2 appearances together since they're basically the same. Also, I don't know where you'd be able to put the phrase "possibly The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" anywhere but in the name section, in which case: go for it. Afton still has "The man behind the slaughter" as one of his aliases, last I checked, so we're clearly not taking names and titles very seriously.

the hole point still stands regardless tho

Fair enough.

 

[ShionAH]

Golden Freddy's page merges his FNAF 1 and FNAF 2 appearances together since they're basically the same. Also, I don't know where you'd be able to put the phrase "possibly The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" anywhere but in the name section

It can be in the abilities. “possibly All Powers of TOYSHK”

 

[LightSoul8]

It can be in the abilities. “possibly All Powers of TOYSHK”

I guess I wouldn't contest that too much, even if I disagree with it. It's a hell of a lot better than attempting to outright merge the profiles.

 

[Perequeliri993]

guys, special delivery keys wouldn't be bearers of RtP, right? they went crazy because of the mimic1 program IIRC

 

[Perequeliri993]

wait, guys, would this mean that ennard and molten freddy are high-tier remnant users?

 

[DaReaperMan]

guys, special delivery keys wouldn't be bearers of RtP, right? they went crazy because of the mimic1 program IIRC

Special Delivery keys DO have Remnant, that's how you make them better in the game, but I don't know how strong they should be

 

[LightSoul8]

wait, guys, would this mean that ennard and molten freddy are high-tier remnant users?

Quantity =/= quality. The tiers are separated by how they use their Remnant, not by how much they have.

Passive immortality: Low-Tier

Immortality, illusions, technology manip: Mid-Tier

Greater immortality, perception manip, soul manip, life manip, etc.: High-Tier

The Funtimes are somewhere between Low and Mid

 

[Perequeliri993]

Special Delivery keys DO have Remnant, that's how you make them better in the game, but I don't know how strong they should be

Low tier, I guess, unless we have reasons to believe more.

Quantity =/= quality. The tiers are separated by how they use their Remnant, not by how much they have.

Passive immortality: Low-Tier

Immortality, illusions, technology manip: Mid-Tier

Greater immortality, perception manip, soul manip, life manip, etc.: High-Tier

The Funtimes are somewhere between Low and Mid

The main ones seem to be mid, so I guess i'll go with that.

 

[Perequeliri993]

also, please purge this page

Freddy Fazbear (Movie)

Freddy Fazbear is one of the animatronics in the new Fnaf movie. Tier: 9-C Name: Freddy Fazbear, Unknow name of the missing children Origin: Five Nights At Freddy's Movie Gender: Male Age: Likely late 20's to early 30's Classification: Human, Ghost, Animatronic Powers and Abilities: Superhuman...

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[Perequeliri993]

it has an unaccepted calc and all

 

[DaReaperMan]

Low quality, etc.

Decent render though.

 

[Perequeliri993]

Guys, do I remove Freddy's "Crying Children" key since it is already on the RtP page?

Low quality, etc.

Decent render though.

True

 

[Robot972]

I mean, it's still based on speculation. In the Frights, Kelsey is Golden Freddy iirc, whereas Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit.

Didn't the actual stuffed body completely not match Kelsey in appearance? Kinda implies Kelsey ain't real

 

[LightSoul8]

Guys, do I remove Freddy's "Crying Children" key since it is already on the RtP page?

True

I think you should

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah, all crying child keys should be removed for those with Remnant stuff

 

[Perequeliri993]

Guys, why does Freddy's UCN key have type 7 immo and IP type 2? Pretty sure those are just TOYSHK's puppets without much of a mind. Do I remove it?

I think you should

Yeah, all crying child keys should be removed for those with Remnant stuff

k

 

[Omegabronic]

Since the Remnant Page has mentions TOYSHK in the reality warping description......i have to ask, how do we define what supernatural stuff is made through Remnant and what isn't?

 

[Omegabronic]

Guys, why does Freddy's UCN key have type 7 immo and IP type 2? Pretty sure those are just TOYSHK's puppets without much of a mind. Do I remove it?


k

I mean........a bunch of them talk and havr serminly a concious, W.Chica and Puppet's dialogue even....seem to imply they still have memories from the actual souls who possesed them

 

[Homunculus_Jr!]

also, please purge this page

Freddy Fazbear (Movie)

Freddy Fazbear is one of the animatronics in the new Fnaf movie. Tier: 9-C Name: Freddy Fazbear, Unknow name of the missing children Origin: Five Nights At Freddy's Movie Gender: Male Age: Likely late 20's to early 30's Classification: Human, Ghost, Animatronic Powers and Abilities: Superhuman...

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Damn, someone beat me to it, though tbf, I'm not finishing until the new prints for the novelization come out since the current one is probably based on an old script of the film.

I agree that the render is nice, tho

 

[ShionAH]

I mean........a bunch of them talk and havr serminly a concious, W.Chica and Puppet's dialogue even....seem to imply they still have memories from the actual souls who possesed them

Those “memories” are likely made by TOYSNHK, remember narratively after Fnaf 6 only real survivors that use remnant are Afton and TOYSNHK who both are stuck in UCN

 

[LightSoul8]

Since the Remnant Page has mentions TOYSHK in the reality warping description......i have to ask, how do we define what supernatural stuff is made through Remnant and what isn't?

Everything supernatural in FNAF is from Remnant and/or beings made of it.

 

[Perequeliri993]

I mean........a bunch of them talk and havr serminly a concious, W.Chica and Puppet's dialogue even....seem to imply they still have memories from the actual souls who possesed them

Yeah but, for example, there are 2 babies, both talking, and two puppets.

Those “memories” are likely made by TOYSNHK, remember narratively after Fnaf 6 only real survivors that use remnant are Afton and TOYSNHK who both are stuck in UCN

yeah, that's likely the reason

 

[Omegabronic]

Everything supernatural in FNAF is from Remnant and/or beings made of it.

So shouldn't the remnant page should have all the abilities from TOYSHK?

 

[Perequeliri993]

So shouldn't the remnant page should have all the abilities from TOYSHK?

I mean, they kinda... are there, just shoved in the Reality warping and subjective reality

 

[LightSoul8]

So shouldn't the remnant page should have all the abilities from TOYSHK?

The Remnant page only features abilities that multiple characters have. Actually, the Pocket Reality stuff might have to get taken off in that case since I suggested Shadow Bonnie's FNAF 3 minigame stuff as Pocket Reality Manipulation despite that being baseless speculation. Most of Vengeful Spirit's abilities are unique to it. Also, Fetch's Data Manip should probably get taken off of Mid-Tier and just kept to his own profile.