Flonne VS Beerus

[Paulo.junior.969]

If you guys think the justification for Beerus' rating should be changed, please say that to whoever is responsible for Beerus' page, which is not me.

 

[Linkfoi12]

Hmm, Alright.

 

[ArmBill]

True

 

[Jobbo]

Who's making the CRT?

 

[ArmBill]

I got some additional abilities for beerus, and others. so I can make it.

 

[Jobbo]

Alright, go for it.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Can anyone help me count the votes? I lost count already. Also I forgot about this but even Beerus have that Hakai armor, he still can't do much against Flonne's telekinesis. She's just gonna control him and slap him tbh.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Flonne FRA

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

7-6, it's gonna be one of them isn't it?

 

[Theglassman12]

an inconclusive match? What's wrong with that?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

an inconclusive match? What's wrong with that?

I bet it's gonna go on forever. Like Goku VS Vegeta or Goku VS He-Man one.

 

[Theglassman12]

Or the grace period can end and we can add this as inconclusive.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

I am still curious of why people believe that Hakai works on beings stronger than users when anime tells us otherwise.

Because it's the rule. You can also say Arceus's haxes work on someone who is infinitely stronger than him

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Or the grace period can end and we can add this as inconclusive.

It's 7-6 right now so there's no grace period. Grace period starts when there a difference of at least 3 votes

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If the grace period ends and the difference is still less than 3, then it's inconclusive.

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

Beerus takes this pretty decidedly. He has AP Advantage (Any two GoD's can cause the destruction of their universes as being comparable to 3rd UIO tigger who is far above Infinite Zamasu and comparable to Jiren's full power.), Instinctive Reaction, Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation and Energy Nullification (Can void out almost any energy attack unless it's far stronger than him), is a far more skilled combatant having over 1,000x the experience she does (Milennia vs over 75,000,000 years), and toon force doesn't do jack shit to him (Shown and stated in Dragon Ball Super episode 69).

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

If the grace period ends and the difference is still less than 3, then it's inconclusive.

This is new. Anyway how much time left?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's new? I thought it always worked like that.

 

[Theglassman12]

I always worked like that. He meant it was new for him.

@Yeahboi half a day left.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

It's new? I thought it always worked like that.

I never know such thing. There's a match that the score was like 26 to 21.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Yeahboi that was because a lot of people came in to vote.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

It's new? I thought it always worked like that.

To my knowledge, there is no actual policy for inconclusive matches outside of most people in a thread agreeing as such or there being equally valid arguments on both sides.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@Yeahboi that was because a lot of people came in to vote.

Yea, the match I created a month ago called "Goku VS He-Man" doesn't work like that. It was like 8-0 in He-Man's favor and then Goku comeback and the grace period stopped there, the match continued on until there's a 3 vote differences.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Grace periods only start when there's a valid verdict (at least 7 votes with a difference of at least 3 votes). If the opposing characters gets enough votes to invalidate the verdict, grace period stops and doesn't resume until a character gets the majority vote again or until it's clear that there isn't a clear cut winner.

EDIT: Well, the grace period doesn't resume as so much as starts over.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Speaking of Goku VS He-Man, it had so much messages to the point that my computer lagged.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Speaking of Goku VS He-Man, it had so much messages to the point that my computer lagged.

I remember a Vs thread that had so many messages that we had to make another thread to continue it, because it had over 400 replies, and the second thread also had hundreds of replies, and the worst part is that it wasn't even added, because one of them got upgraded while the thread was going on, so it became a stomp.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Speaking of Goku VS He-Man, it had so much messages to the point that my computer lagged.

I remember a Vs thread that had so many messages that we had to make another thread to continue it, because it had over 400 replies, and the second thread also had hundreds of replies, and the worst part is that it wasn't even added, because one of them got upgraded while the thread was going on, so it became a stomp.

Lol, that sucks. Mine was lucky enough to get added.

Also which one? Do you have link to it?

 

[Kaltias]

He has AP Advantage (Any two GoD's can cause the destruction of their universes as being comparable to 3rd UIO tigger who is far above Infinite Zamasu and comparable to Jiren's full power.)

That's by no means a big AP advantage, if at all, when nameless fodder in Disgaea are also Low 2-C.

Instinctive Reaction

Can't use them if he can't move.

Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation and Energy Nullification

To make up for his hax disadvantage? Definitely they don't grant him that big of an edge

and toon force doesn't do jack shit to him

Good but Flonne doesn't use it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, the resistance to toonforce has been debunked so many times that it's not even funny (it wasn't even specified for crying out loud)

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

I think Flonne take this. But I can't vote sadly.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Is there any hax that can counter Telekinesis?

 

[Theglassman12]

His killing intent sensing and going for the kill right off the bat.

 

[Kaltias]

>Hax that requires movement countering hax that prevents movement

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

He can seal her but I'm not sure if it's fast enough.

 

[Theglassman12]

And how fast is her telekinesis?

 

[Kaltias]

Like almost every telekinesis in fiction ever, it's thought based

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

He can seal her but I'm not sure if it's fast enough.

MAAFUUBAA!!! lmao

 

[Bluetrekking]

Voting Beerus for now.

Not only is he more likely to start with Hakai opposed her using TK, but we know Hakai can be used at range.

As for Flonne, she is an RPG with no set "character". This means, that saying she is going to start with her most powerful hax is a favorable assumption that one can not justify.

Her AP is a non-factor as she isn't one-shotting off the back. Added to the fact that he can sense killing intent and has UI, he should take this 7/10.

 

[Kaltias]

When the stuff that actually helps is about half of her powers, it's really not that big of an assumption.

Summoning helps, unless you are telling me that in character Beerus would take care of an enemy far away, instead of one right in front of him that's actually attacking him.

And her status effects are just added stuff. It isn't "I want to put you to sleep". She fires a basic attack, which happens to put people to sleep.

TBH i was mostly debating against "Hakai gg", because it ignores what Flonne can do

 

[ArmBill]

Also, the resistance to toonforce has been debunked so many times that it's not even funny (it wasn't even specified for crying out loud)

I would like to see where this was "debunked".It dosent really matter if it wasent "specified", what else would "Carful arale, that stuff dosent work on beerus" mean? TBH this is the only site I still see people arguing against it. Pretty much everyone/everwhere else have accepted it as fact lol.